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With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Yep the base price for a Iphone 7 Plus in Sweden is 1100$. Not sure it makes sense comparing prices like this though. In Sweden the cost of an iphone does not compete with your ability to get access to health care or education for example.

The Swedish price also includes 25% VAT, as well as the cost of consumer protection afforded by Swedish/EU laws (which in the US you have to pay extra to get through AppleCare - although AppleCare does go further)

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I think Apple hit a point where producing an exclusive phone with top features in every department wasn't really possible anymore at their scale. We've seen them stuck at 16GB for a really long time simply because upgrading all phones to 32GB would consume another whopping 15% of the SSD market. OLED screens in that quality and format aren't produced in enough quantities to put on every iPhone - yet. But people expec…

> OLED screens in that quality and format aren't produced in enough quantities to put on every iPhone

Apple's scale is amazing but I don't really get this observation. Is this is because Samsung has been shipping OLED at Apple-level volumes for years, so they've already sucked up most of the supply?

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A lot of people just get the best iphone every 24 months (e.g. rich people, or people who have a generous smartphone policy at work). Having a model that gets another couple of hundred bucks from those people is pretty clever I think. This is basically the S-class phone (To make a car analogy, because that's what we do). The S-class Mercedes costs twice as much as the "Normal" E-class, and each time they launch a new…

I can completely understand the reasoning, and it is very clever indeed. This goes in line with the first Apple Watch Edition, which sold for $10k+ but wasn't very successful at all, not even for a luxury product. So they quietly removed it from sale and instead pushed the ceramic model which is still a luxury product both in looks and in price, but not at that gold tier. However, the price of the lowest-tier of the…

> However, the price of the lowest-tier of the latest model has been going up steadily over time,

The base model iPhone has been $649 for as long as I can remember, which means it's technically gone down in price when you account for a decade of inflation...

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That doesn't protect you against accidental breakage. Outside of that, I rely on actual consumer protection laws, which aren't so hefty in the US - hence folks using credit cards to get some extra protection. It isn't like you are taking a big risk with Apple or your phone company ripping you off anyway. http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/guar...

> That doesn't protect you against accidental breakage. Check your cardholder agreements. Mine do.

What card(s) do you have that have this protection?

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why not pay more ? 1) A CAN$100 phone gives you 75% of the experience, a CAN$250 gives your 95% of the experience 2) Android doesn't lock you to use a single app depot 3) Android doesn't require 2 or 3 login / password (iCloud + iTunes) 4) Android accounts work worldwide, it doesn't fail to log you in if you change countries (I had to re-create an AppleID when I moved to Canada because the US one no longer worked) 5)…

> No pressure sensitive touch-ID which fails to work with aging users (try to explain the concept to a +80 yo). It can just be disabled in the phone settings.

I wasn't really speaking about the touch-ID feature per-se, but the lack of physical feedback from the pressure sensitive home button, as you can last find on the iPhone 6/6S. My uncle had all the trouble in the world to use it. For such an expensive device, this is just not acceptable.

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No mention of a cell phone pushing over the bar of what constitutes a felony in terms of dollar amount. I'm in no way for raising this limit further, but I also don't think stealing a cellphone should be a felony.

Older articles, but they cover what I'm talking about: https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/03/09/why-stealing-ip...

http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/issue-brie...

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Healthcare sucks AND it's ridiculously expensive.

Yes! As a twenty something single I was shocked that people saw paying $200 out of pocket each month as a privilege that comes with working. Clearly, for me it was a pure waste because I used exactly zero dollars worth of health care myself. Of course, people with infants absolutely need it. I had a coworker who had basically the same story as Jimmy Kimmel (newborn with heart defect). I can't imagine how much quality…

Until you have a catastrophic health issue like say total kidney failure at 18 which happed to some one I know or you need a transplant I dread to think what my recent kidney transplant would costs in the USA as opposed to the UK

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> That doesn't protect you against accidental breakage. Check your cardholder agreements. Mine do.

You drop it and break the screen at your own fault and your card will replace it? Sorry I don't buy it.

It's only for 120 days but, e.g. this is from one of Chase's cards: What's covered: "Eligible personal property that has been damaged, stolen, or involuntary and accidental parting with property within 120 days from the date of purchase"

This is in addition to a year of additional warranty protection and various other purchase protections.

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> proven reliability This. I buy iPhones because I know that every released version will be bought by several tens of millions. I don't want a smartphone that only a couple of million bought. If something is wrong with it I don't want to find a few unhappy souls on some forum complaining about the same thing, and a manufacturer that's already pushing ten new models. The "Just works" feature is worth so much to people…

> I don't want a smartphone that only a couple of million bought Not sure if serious ...

Dead serious.

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It's a defensible position, I live in the EU so proximity to heaps of expendable income is not as abundant than in the US middle-class. In the UK we had a saying "the poor man pays twice", meaning that if you buy a shitty rake and it breaks you have to go buy a new one. This is kinda the case with phones too, you can buy a $450 phone with 2 years of updates, or a $700 with 5 years. Which one is more economical over t…

False dichotomy. I just bought an Android phone over the weekend for $35 (on sale from $50) -- the LG K3. It has an older Android OS (Marshmellow) a little slow, the screen resolution isn't great, and the keyboard input is a little more fiddly than my Nexus 5X (which bricked, which is why I needed to get a new temp phone), but otherwise it works just fine. Six years ago I paid $170 for an equivalent phone (older vers…

OK, but how long did you receive patches after the purchase?

I'm talking mainly about phone support not whether it continues to function on a basic level or not.

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