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With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by mi100hael »

lagadu wrote: post #413
ihateneckbeards wrote: post #16

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Mid range cars can also drive pretty much like top of the range cars, they share most features yet people like high end cars.

That's just not true in any possible way. The handling and driving experience of a nicer sports car is absolutely nothing like a regular midranger, not to mention all the quality of life features.

I think it's truer these days than most of us would admit. The current Shelby Mustang placed only behind the McLaren 570S in Motortrend's 2016 best driver's car contest, beating out the Merc, Aston Martin, Porsche, and others[0]. The BRZ might not be fast, but it has almost universally positive reviews anyway because it handles and drives so damn well[1]. Even the $23k Ford Focus ST gets positive reviews as a great driving car[2]. You can get a fantastic sports car for well under $75k these days.

0: http://www.motortrend.com/cars/mclaren/570/2016/2016-motor-t... 1: https://jalopnik.com/what-nobody-understands-about-the-subar... 2: http://www.automobilemag.com/news/2016-ford-focus-st-one-wee...

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by pawadu »

alkonaut wrote: post #177
devwastaken wrote: post #90

After recently doing a bit of research into a new smartphone, I begun to understand why people buy Iphones, even if they're really really expensive. Firstly, you can explain it away financially with monthly payments, like any phone through a provider, but the biggest pain point I had is proven reliability. Take any popular Android phone, and you'll see a history of unsolved hardware problems from the manufacturer, su…

> proven reliability This. I buy iPhones because I know that every released version will be bought by several tens of millions. I don't want a smartphone that only a couple of million bought. If something is wrong with it I don't want to find a few unhappy souls on some forum complaining about the same thing, and a manufacturer that's already pushing ten new models. The "Just works" feature is worth so much to people…

> I don't want a smartphone that only a couple of million bought

Not sure if serious ...

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by taway_1212 »

alacombe wrote: post #426
avenoir wrote: post #27

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We carry these things on our bodies damn near most of the day. We use them in our down time to read books and news. To communicate with others and consume information in a matter of seconds. To remind ourselves of things occurring throughout the day. To keep track of grocery lists, diets, fitness activities, sleep cycles and etc. It's basically the first fully functional extension of our body. So, absolutely... why t…

why not pay more ? 1) A CAN$100 phone gives you 75% of the experience, a CAN$250 gives your 95% of the experience 2) Android doesn't lock you to use a single app depot 3) Android doesn't require 2 or 3 login / password (iCloud + iTunes) 4) Android accounts work worldwide, it doesn't fail to log you in if you change countries (I had to re-create an AppleID when I moved to Canada because the US one no longer worked) 5)…

> No pressure sensitive touch-ID which fails to work with aging users (try to explain the concept to a +80 yo).

It can just be disabled in the phone settings.

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Post by TeMPOraL »

KozmoNau7 wrote: post #392
TeMPOraL wrote: post #375

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> A website takes more than a second to load? ARGH it must be down, now my day is ruined! Delays when fetching data on-line are understandable. Delays for simple off-line stuff are not. Especially unexpected delays - as in, the stuff used to work fast (in the past, or on my previous phone), but now it lags. Hell, I had a crap smartphone that liked to hang for 30+ seconds when trying to answer a phone call . > No, he…

You've made a bad choice in selecting which phone to buy, then. My Moto X Play is still as fast as ever, the only app I ever experience any slowdown in is Google Maps, and it's always been like that. Everything else is latency from logging in, fetching resources and so on.

Yes, I did. But then I also saw similar issues on other people's phones (both crappy ones and good, but _old_ ones - the latter probably can be blamed on flash degradation).

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Post by verelo »

wuliwong wrote: post #509
verelo wrote: post #464

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> "And in terms of iPhones / Population / Apple Store, the US has it most. While in Japan 60% of the Smartphone are iPhone ( i.e Higher the US usage ) they have less then 10 Apple Stores." pet peeve of mine is then vs than.

A fun thing to do is search "less then" in google news.

Yeah, don't write about it though, this has cost me -1 karma. I guess people like this less /than/ i expected.

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by mi100hael »

cm2187 wrote: post #44
ihateneckbeards wrote: post #16

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Mid range cars can also drive pretty much like top of the range cars, they share most features yet people like high end cars.

There is a noticeable difference in experience between a mercedes and a ford. I am not convinced there is a noticeable difference between an i5 and i7 unless you are doing something super demanding.

Yeah, the Ford drives better :P

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/mclaren/570/2016/2016-motor-t...

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Post by kobeya »

chimeracoder wrote: post #539
Broken_Hippo wrote: post #467

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That doesn't protect you against accidental breakage. Outside of that, I rely on actual consumer protection laws, which aren't so hefty in the US - hence folks using credit cards to get some extra protection. It isn't like you are taking a big risk with Apple or your phone company ripping you off anyway. http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/guar...

> That doesn't protect you against accidental breakage. Check your cardholder agreements. Mine do.

You drop it and break the screen at your own fault and your card will replace it? Sorry I don't buy it.

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Post by problems »

dep_b wrote: post #525
problems wrote: post #416

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If you run custom ROMs on Android that situation is currently better than anything - you can still get updates for a Galaxy Nexus from 2011. Xiaomi is also currently providing official updates for 4+ years on some devices. The official situation should change too - with the release of Android 8 there is now a more defined layer separating the HAL from the rest of the OS, allowing updates to be pushed out universally.

Yeah I'll totally bet the farm on the hope that in five years shady_dude_1998 will upload a nice ROM for me on some kind of site that forces me to watch an add for 15 seconds first. I'm not against the idea of customizing your phone with a custom ROM but let's not pretend that it's a genuine option for regular consumers.

I'm not suggesting that - look at big professional projects like Lineage, Paranoid and others.

I'd say it is a quite genuine option - you just need to know one person who can set you up once, updating is simple and streamlined.

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Post by TeMPOraL »

Yetanfou wrote: post #447
TeMPOraL wrote: post #160

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Or, any other IM program (including text messages). Or getting directions. Or checking departure time of a bus. Or switching a song that's playing. Or turning my Hue lights on/off. Or checking my account balance. Or paying with the phone. Each of those actions should take no more than couple of seconds (occasionally, a couple dozen). And it can, if your phone is not lagging out after lockscreen or when trying to load…

All these things work just fine on these older devices. The pauses the original message mentioned are mostly encountered when starting or switching between applications. Once the application is running things work as intended. I use Telegram on that Motorola Defy I mentioned, no problems. It runs navigation apps (Navigon, OsmAnd~) without problems. It takes photo's of reasonable quality, those photo's can be edited o…

Well, if you use a 6-years-old phone and it works for you, then by all means, stick to it. I would, too.

In my case it's not about chasing the newest features and highest resolutions - it's about certainty of getting a quality product. I no longer want to risk getting a shitty, laggy phone, or a phone that turns into one after few months. I consider it not worth the frustration it causes in daily usage.

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