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Re: Why I left

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Post by chanux »

stickfigure wrote: post #39
JonasJSchreiber wrote: post #16

I'm not sure why the negative reaction to this post. I found it completely plausible and have no reason to doubt the author. It sucks that there are crappy people like this but unfortunately that's the real world. People will exploit you if you allow them to. That said, threatening to sell exploits on the black market is a terrible way to fight back. Everything up to that point suggested the author had a case he coul…

threatening to sell exploits on the black market is a terrible way to fight back My guess is that this is a clever way of destroying confidence in the coin and subverting the organization. He need not exploit the vulnerabilities; hell, they need not even exist. If he was really going to sell 0-days, it's not in his interest to announce it. As someone who once had the experience of being forced out of an organization…

Would you be in tears, though? :D

https://coppermind.net/wiki/Hoid

Re: Why I left

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Post by [deleted] »

nabaraz wrote: post #37

Their new CTO did an AMA on reddit recently. https://www.reddit.com/r/Aeternity/comments/6vxiei/ama_sessi... The relevant parts: > There are no zero days. And we are not using any of Zack’s code in the new repo. Take a look at our Github. Zack’s leaving has zero effect on our technology and we are not using any of his code. > We have been working alongside Zack for quite some time now and understand the code. We felt…

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Re: Why I left

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Post by throwaway2554 »

litzer wrote: post #17

It seems to be a mistake on the author's part to allow himself to be exploited at first (working without having any of the promises in legal writing). It's unethical but not uncommon and alone wouldn't produce the outrage for an article detailing it. The missing piece is why he doesn't feel pressing criminal charges and suing for IP is an option. The language seems to imply that the answer is for his physical safety.…

From what I've gathered from some people working in the blockchain community, some of the altcoins that are geared towards being a ponzi schemes have investors with Russian oligarch/mafia or similarly shady backgrounds. I wouldn't be surprised if that isn't completely contained to the obious scams.

Re: Why I left

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Post by CalChris »

I don't understand why he didn't nail down his equity situation before doing any work. Yeah, it's pretty shifty of the 'founders' but then it's pretty basic for techies, especially early startup engineers.

Re: Why I left

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Post by hitekker »

Particularly alarming section:

> August 17- Aeternity finally makes an offer to hire me that I am comfortable with. In the process of negotiating my employment, the owner of Aeternity was asking me technical questions, and the honest answers I gave made him angry. He wished that universe worked differently, and he blamed me, the messenger of bad news. The owner of Aeternity was so upset by the technical limitation, that he did something to me that both scared and injured me. I no longer feel safe working with this person. I am walking with a limp a week later.

He implies that a violent struggle took place but without saying so explicitly. Which is odd since a detailed description of a physical assault would draw immediate sympathy from we, the public-at-large.

Re: Why I left

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Post by pg_is_a_butt »

mhluongo wrote: post #34
everdev wrote: post #20

> my only way to get paid is by selling zero-day exploits for people who want to attack Aeternity. It sounds like a typical situation where a startup screws over a key early employee. Typically there are legal avenues to pursue if the author truly was taken advantage of. Threatening to sell 0-day exploits smells of immaturity and anger though. I'm not sure how the tech stack works or how long it was developed but $3.…

Sounds like the company did a token sale for $77M based on his work. So, no- he's not overvaluing his contribution.

printing fake money is very easy...

Re: Why I left

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Post by Lazare »

nabaraz wrote: post #37

Their new CTO did an AMA on reddit recently. https://www.reddit.com/r/Aeternity/comments/6vxiei/ama_sessi... The relevant parts: > There are no zero days. And we are not using any of Zack’s code in the new repo. Take a look at our Github. Zack’s leaving has zero effect on our technology and we are not using any of his code. > We have been working alongside Zack for quite some time now and understand the code. We felt…

Fascinating. That seems to confirm a lot of Zack's claims (not the physical assault parts, of course).

Highly unusual to start over with an empty repo when your lead developer quits. Which makes me suspect that the answer to the asked-but-unanswered question:

> Is this down to IP issues / lack of any contracts or legal agreements?

Is "yes".

Re: Why I left

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Post by knocte »

0xbear wrote: post #28
fred_is_fred wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And instead of getting a lawyer to resolve this, he says he'll just 0-day exploits for it. Seems like a poor negotiation strategy to me.

How does a lawyer resolve anything if there's no contract? And by extension, why should he refrain from publishing zero days if there's no contract? It's his software.

It's not about the contract, it's about the injury.

Re: Why I left

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Post by GalacticDomin8r »

em3rgent0rdr wrote: post #18
pmorici wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The irony. He rants about the unethical behavior of his associates and then clearly states that he will himself engage in unethical behavior. The only thing this rant proves is that the ICO space is over run by ethically challenged scammers much like the Bitcoin ASIC space was 3 years ago.

It may be ironic, however it's not unethical to engage in unethical behavior specifically against unethical actors.

Yeah because history always treats kindly those who believe the ends justify the means.

Re: Why I left

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Post by GalacticDomin8r »

JonasJSchreiber wrote: post #19
evanslify wrote: post #4

Why the author doesn't call out widely for assistance even if physically threatened/assaulted, but choosing to avoid all confrontations instead?

Passive behavioral trait. Shyness, unwillingness to engage in confrontation, I can empathize.

My impression was more passive-aggresive with a large dose of narcissism.
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