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Re: Why I left

#31

Post by noobermin »

everdev wrote: post #20

> my only way to get paid is by selling zero-day exploits for people who want to attack Aeternity. It sounds like a typical situation where a startup screws over a key early employee. Typically there are legal avenues to pursue if the author truly was taken advantage of. Threatening to sell 0-day exploits smells of immaturity and anger though. I'm not sure how the tech stack works or how long it was developed but $3.…

Is it any less mature than essentially screwing him over and assaulting him?

Talk about blaming someone for slapping a guy ready to shoot you.

Re: Why I left

#32

Post by humanrebar »

em3rgent0rdr wrote: post #18
pmorici wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The irony. He rants about the unethical behavior of his associates and then clearly states that he will himself engage in unethical behavior. The only thing this rant proves is that the ICO space is over run by ethically challenged scammers much like the Bitcoin ASIC space was 3 years ago.

It may be ironic, however it's not unethical to engage in unethical behavior specifically against unethical actors.

Depends on your ethics. In mine that is absolutely unethical.

Re: Why I left

#34

Post by mhluongo »

everdev wrote: post #20

> my only way to get paid is by selling zero-day exploits for people who want to attack Aeternity. It sounds like a typical situation where a startup screws over a key early employee. Typically there are legal avenues to pursue if the author truly was taken advantage of. Threatening to sell 0-day exploits smells of immaturity and anger though. I'm not sure how the tech stack works or how long it was developed but $3.…

Sounds like the company did a token sale for $77M based on his work. So, no- he's not overvaluing his contribution.

Re: Why I left

#35

Post by flukus »

humanrebar wrote: post #32
em3rgent0rdr wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It may be ironic, however it's not unethical to engage in unethical behavior specifically against unethical actors.

Depends on your ethics. In mine that is absolutely unethical.

I agree. Doesn't mean I wouldn't engage in that unethical behavior though, I just wouldn't try to justify it as ethical.

Re: Why I left

#36

Post by mhluongo »

danjoc wrote: post #2

>Things I have done for Aeternity If this really was implemented entirely by one person, they have no moat. >Instead the anonymous owner of Aeternity is deciding how the money is spent. Yeah, that's how capitalism works. The person with the capital owns you. And now, I look into my crystal ball... I see the anonymous owner is going to sue you for running off with his intellectual property and starting a competitor wi…

If they did a token sale and already have $77M from it in the bank... there will be very little need for a moat. Many of these teams are out to get a quick buck with little accountability.

Re: Why I left

#37

Post by nabaraz »

Their new CTO did an AMA on reddit recently. https://www.reddit.com/r/Aeternity/comments/6vxiei/ama_sessi...

The relevant parts:

> There are no zero days. And we are not using any of Zack’s code in the new repo. Take a look at our Github. Zack’s leaving has zero effect on our technology and we are not using any of his code.

> We have been working alongside Zack for quite some time now and understand the code. We felt that this is the right time to dump some accumulated and unwanted technical baggage. We are starting with a clean source code repository and will be bringing in pieces of code from the old repo as needed.

Re: Why I left

#38

Post by divbit »

gersh wrote: post #27

Isn't the code open source? Can he fork and start his own company?

If his mental state of enthusiasm for working in this field is not completely wrecked by this occurrence... Your github is inspiring work Zack - I've ran across it several times in the past - I hope you get paid reasonably somehow or whatever you need to be happy.

Re: Why I left

#39

Post by stickfigure »

JonasJSchreiber wrote: post #16

I'm not sure why the negative reaction to this post. I found it completely plausible and have no reason to doubt the author. It sucks that there are crappy people like this but unfortunately that's the real world. People will exploit you if you allow them to. That said, threatening to sell exploits on the black market is a terrible way to fight back. Everything up to that point suggested the author had a case he coul…

threatening to sell exploits on the black market is a terrible way to fight back

My guess is that this is a clever way of destroying confidence in the coin and subverting the organization. He need not exploit the vulnerabilities; hell, they need not even exist. If he was really going to sell 0-days, it's not in his interest to announce it.

As someone who once had the experience of being forced out of an organization by someone who thought software teams could be swapped out like the janitorial staff, I love this. It won't make you rich, but sometimes it's nice to just watch something burn.

Re: Why I left

#40

Post by ww520 »

thdxr wrote: post #7

Did I read this correctly, he was physically assaulted? Can he not press for criminal charges? What's also interesting is I was approached by Aeternity at the end of June to join their team. Wonder if the timing coincided wtih the author's troubles

That's at least assault if not battery. Assault is the threat of physical violence, and battery is the actual physical act. It sounds like the owner has physically assaulted him. Either way, it's a felony. That's totally unacceptable.
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