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San Diego Declares Health Emergency Amid Hepatitis A Outbreak

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Re: San Diego Declares Health Emergency Amid Hepatitis A Outbreak

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I work in East Village, have for a few years. I'd say part of the problem is the local gov decided upkeep of the public restrooms they had was too expensive, so they removed them. They kind of shot themselves in the foot it seems. http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/politics/sdut-portl...

Re: San Diego Declares Health Emergency Amid Hepatitis A Outbreak

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It's way past time that we start dealing with homelessness as the national problem it is rather than leaving it to cities who are ill-equipped to deal with it. Cities like San Diego only have homelessness problems because they have weather that's amenable to living outdoors. The vast majority of their homeless population was born elsewhere. It's unconscionable that we leave the job of providing services for these peo…

Basic income, basic housing, basic food, basic education, basic healthcare? Seems like we need to address all of these issues. Literally the only institutions that provide all of these things are jails, which many homeless attempt to get into.

"Basic income, basic housing, basic food, basic education, basic healthcare?"

I am open minded about UBI, etc.

However, it has occurred to me recently that we already have a decent experimental result with regard to:

"Basic income, basic housing, basic food, basic education, basic healthcare"

Poor white people in the rural United States have all of those things. Even the poorest of them have basic food, housing and education that we might consider "first world".

I notice that they aren't following their passions and climbing up to the peak of mazlows hierarchy.

Instead, the lack of self-determination and "purpose" causes a despair that drives them to substance abuse.

(apologies for the cascading UBI debate, below...)

Re: San Diego Declares Health Emergency Amid Hepatitis A Outbreak

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Follow this line of thought long enough, and you get to a hukou system. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hukou_system

Is that good or bad? Listen, I support single payer systems, but how do they figure out how much to pay in each region? Same question for UBI. I have come to believe that UBI and all other safety nets have to come with immigration requirements. Not just everyone is going to be accepted to live among rich billionaires without concern for running out of money. And so on in every neighborhood. Thus, UBI needs for each a…

California makes adding new housing illegal.

Re: San Diego Declares Health Emergency Amid Hepatitis A Outbreak

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There is a really huge shortage of genuinely affordable housing in the US. Public housing is generally pretty crappy and in short supply to boot. Having studied the problem in an actual college class and also spent the last 5.5 years on the street: It's complicated. But we need more solutions for people and fewer aimed at poor people specifically. Programs to help the poor are routinely craptastic. Affordable housing…

>There is a really huge shortage of genuinely affordable housing in the US. Public housing is generally pretty crappy and in short supply to boot. This is disingenuous, the housing shortages are all in the highly desirable locations like the SFO, LAX, NYC, etc. There is no housing shortage in the vast majority of the country (look at Detroit). It's completely unsustainable to try to support a model where anyone shoul…

Disengenuous:

not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does.

synonyms: insincere · dishonest · untruthful · false · deceitful · duplicitous · lying · mendacious · hypocritical

That is a personal attack.

The shortage of affordable housing is very much real. It is not something I am making up. And, yes, every American city should have housing that single people with entry level jobs can afford without an hour long commute or three roommates. We did historically. We tore a lot of it down in the 60s and 70s when it wasn't really needed, then never rebuilt it when the need for such came back, in essence.

Re: San Diego Declares Health Emergency Amid Hepatitis A Outbreak

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Basic income, basic housing, basic food, basic education, basic healthcare? Seems like we need to address all of these issues. Literally the only institutions that provide all of these things are jails, which many homeless attempt to get into.

"Basic income, basic housing, basic food, basic education, basic healthcare?" I am open minded about UBI, etc. However, it has occurred to me recently that we already have a decent experimental result with regard to: "Basic income, basic housing, basic food, basic education, basic healthcare" Poor white people in the rural United States have all of those things. Even the poorest of them have basic food, housing and e…

As someone who grew up a poor white person in the rural United States, what the heck are you talking about?

Re: San Diego Declares Health Emergency Amid Hepatitis A Outbreak

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a really huge shortage of genuinely affordable housing in the US. Public housing is generally pretty crappy and in short supply to boot. Having studied the problem in an actual college class and also spent the last 5.5 years on the street: It's complicated. But we need more solutions for people and fewer aimed at poor people specifically. Programs to help the poor are routinely craptastic. Affordable housing…

We have Single Payer for the poor and near-poor (Medicaid covers 1 in 5 Americans) and the U.S. government spends a couple hundred billion dollars a year on housing subsidies (directly and through the tax code and through subsidies in the mortgage market). Most federal public housing is privately administered through public vouchers to landlords and non-profits.

Since the demand for housing assistance often exceeds the limited resources available to HUD and the local housing agencies, long waiting periods are common. In fact, a PHA may close its waiting list when it has more families on the list than can be assisted in the near future.

https://portal.hud.gov/hudportal/HUD?src=/topics/housing_cho...

Re: San Diego Declares Health Emergency Amid Hepatitis A Outbreak

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Basic income, basic housing, basic food, basic education, basic healthcare? Seems like we need to address all of these issues. Literally the only institutions that provide all of these things are jails, which many homeless attempt to get into.

Not true at all. These things are all provided. Welfare, public housing, food stamps, public education, Medicaid. That we still have a homeless problem indicates that the reason for long-term homelessness is something else.

>That we still have a homeless problem indicates that the reason for long-term homelessness is something else.

I presumed it was common knowledge that the vast majority of homeless people have mental health issues. America seems to lack any public mental health services. I was disgusted by the number of disturbed homeless people roaming the streets of California when I visited in ways you never see in most of europe. There seems to be absolutely no support for the most vulnerable in society over there.

Re: San Diego Declares Health Emergency Amid Hepatitis A Outbreak

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This is why I fought my doctor and my insurance plan for the HepA/HepB vaccines. Doctor did not think it was needed as I was not a medical professional. Insurance company was being cheap. I had to point out that they were both on the CDC recommended vaccination list for all adults.

The moment there is a safe enough HepC vaccine out, I will be getting it. I'd rather have AIDS over HC. Nasty disease with nasty drugs.

Re: San Diego Declares Health Emergency Amid Hepatitis A Outbreak

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It's way past time that we start dealing with homelessness as the national problem it is rather than leaving it to cities who are ill-equipped to deal with it. Cities like San Diego only have homelessness problems because they have weather that's amenable to living outdoors. The vast majority of their homeless population was born elsewhere. It's unconscionable that we leave the job of providing services for these peo…

It isn't a national problem, it is a local one and almost entirely the result of local zoning and drug addict/mental health outreach strategies. San Diego has a homeless population of 14,000 out of a population of 3.3 million. Even the locals are saying the problem is strategy and leadership, not resources. http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/business/columnists/dan-...

When I visited California I was so shocked by how many people lived in the streets that I asked several people about it and have been told this story:

http://www.povertyinsights.org/2013/10/14/did-reagans-crazy-...

If this is true, don't you think it makes it a national problem?

Re: San Diego Declares Health Emergency Amid Hepatitis A Outbreak

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Follow this line of thought long enough, and you get to a hukou system. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hukou_system

Is that good or bad? Listen, I support single payer systems, but how do they figure out how much to pay in each region? Same question for UBI. I have come to believe that UBI and all other safety nets have to come with immigration requirements. Not just everyone is going to be accepted to live among rich billionaires without concern for running out of money. And so on in every neighborhood. Thus, UBI needs for each a…

I have enough faith in the American people that we would never permit the end of freedom of movement. For one thing, it would take a Constitutional amendment to legalize internal border controls. For another, geographical mobility has been core to American identity since the earliest days of the country. You're talking about locking the Okies in the Dust Bowl. Locking the autoworkers in Detroit even after the auto industry dried up. Preventing the Great Migration of Southern blacks to the more hospitable Northern states. Deepening inequality by locking in the regional disparities that perpetuate it.

This is insane, dystopic (literally, geographically-based caste systems feature in dystopian fiction with some regularity, for example the Hunger Games and Elysium), un-Constitutional, and un-American.

If internal border controls ever became law, I'd be the first to sign up for the resistance in the resultant civil war.

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