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US government halts study on health effects of coal mining

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Re: US government halts study on health effects of coal mining

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The information age is built on gathering raw data and doing pure research, neither of which are profitable activities.

The implied threshold for wastefulness here is offensively low; basically any project that might require one moderately competent PhD researcher for a year.

Re: US government halts study on health effects of coal mining

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This study is on the health risks of surface coal mining (also known as mountaintop removal) on the surrounding communities, not on the miners. As the article notes there is some evidence of unusually high lung cancer and birth defect rates in communities near such mines.

I was eating dinner with two doctors about a month ago, and they were discussing this. They said it was difficult to prove that coal mining causes things like lung cancer in the miners themselves because it is just about impossible to find a coal miner who doesn't smoke.

So what you're saying is coal mining causes smoking.

Re: US government halts study on health effects of coal mining

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post #21
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This study is on the health risks of surface coal mining (also known as mountaintop removal) on the surrounding communities, not on the miners. As the article notes there is some evidence of unusually high lung cancer and birth defect rates in communities near such mines.

I was eating dinner with two doctors about a month ago, and they were discussing this. They said it was difficult to prove that coal mining causes things like lung cancer in the miners themselves because it is just about impossible to find a coal miner who doesn't smoke.

Kind of like the joke about trying to find a carpenter that isn't a drunk.

Re: US government halts study on health effects of coal mining

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was eating dinner with two doctors about a month ago, and they were discussing this. They said it was difficult to prove that coal mining causes things like lung cancer in the miners themselves because it is just about impossible to find a coal miner who doesn't smoke.

Would they get cancer sooner or have different effects than non-miner smokers?

I think the sample sizes might get out of hand as you'd need a good deal of miner and control subjects to filter out the noise.

Re: US government halts study on health effects of coal mining

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"But think of the freedom of speech!" In all seriousness though, the most important bit wasn't even clarified by the article: The agency says it is reviewing spending on all projects that cost more than $100,000. So is it actually true and I'm supposed to be manipulated into outrage due to cherry picking this one project? Or is it false and I'm supposed to be actually outraged at this shadowy deceitful action?

It can be true and you can still be outraged, because that justification is probably just an excuse to can projects that the current government doesn't like.

> can projects that the current government doesn't like.

All administrations do that.

Re: US government halts study on health effects of coal mining

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It can be true and you can still be outraged, because that justification is probably just an excuse to can projects that the current government doesn't like.

> can projects that the current government doesn't like. All administrations do that.

Most administrations aren't so destructively anti-science as this one.

Re: US government halts study on health effects of coal mining

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post #21
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This study is on the health risks of surface coal mining (also known as mountaintop removal) on the surrounding communities, not on the miners. As the article notes there is some evidence of unusually high lung cancer and birth defect rates in communities near such mines.

I was eating dinner with two doctors about a month ago, and they were discussing this. They said it was difficult to prove that coal mining causes things like lung cancer in the miners themselves because it is just about impossible to find a coal miner who doesn't smoke.

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Re: US government halts study on health effects of coal mining

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post #21
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This study is on the health risks of surface coal mining (also known as mountaintop removal) on the surrounding communities, not on the miners. As the article notes there is some evidence of unusually high lung cancer and birth defect rates in communities near such mines.

I was eating dinner with two doctors about a month ago, and they were discussing this. They said it was difficult to prove that coal mining causes things like lung cancer in the miners themselves because it is just about impossible to find a coal miner who doesn't smoke.

What does that have to do with mountain top removal causing health problems in the surrounding communities? Because the study that this article refers to isn't about lung cancer in coal miners.

Re: US government halts study on health effects of coal mining

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It can be true and you can still be outraged, because that justification is probably just an excuse to can projects that the current government doesn't like.

> can projects that the current government doesn't like. All administrations do that.

Really? Can you show me a legitimate scientific project that the Obama administration shut down?
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