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US government halts study on health effects of coal mining

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Re: US government halts study on health effects of coal mining

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I assumed it was widely known that coal mining was hazardous to ones health. My grandfather died from black lung before I was born.

This study is on the health risks of surface coal mining (also known as mountaintop removal) on the surrounding communities, not on the miners. As the article notes there is some evidence of unusually high lung cancer and birth defect rates in communities near such mines.

I was eating dinner with two doctors about a month ago, and they were discussing this. They said it was difficult to prove that coal mining causes things like lung cancer in the miners themselves because it is just about impossible to find a coal miner who doesn't smoke.

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The issue of reducing wasteful spending across the government, at all levels, is near and dear to many of us.

I'm still waiting for us to actually cut wasteful spending in areas like defense. Too bad that will never happen. The Gov can just keep cutting science spending.

But defense create jobs!

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I'm still waiting for us to actually cut wasteful spending in areas like defense. Too bad that will never happen. The Gov can just keep cutting science spending.

Fun fact: even when you exclude defense spending, total government expenditures per capita (federal, state, and local) are $1,500 per year higher in the US than in Canada.

Sure, but it seems somewhat disingenous to mention this in the same topic as public health, safety , ecological and science research.

The US spends more for worse outcomes on entitlements like health care, because we refuse to optimize it.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm still waiting for us to actually cut wasteful spending in areas like defense. Too bad that will never happen. The Gov can just keep cutting science spending.

Fun fact: even when you exclude defense spending, total government expenditures per capita (federal, state, and local) are $1,500 per year higher in the US than in Canada.

Per capita GDP is quite a bit higher in the US, so that's not unexpected.

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"But think of the freedom of speech!" In all seriousness though, the most important bit wasn't even clarified by the article: The agency says it is reviewing spending on all projects that cost more than $100,000. So is it actually true and I'm supposed to be manipulated into outrage due to cherry picking this one project? Or is it false and I'm supposed to be actually outraged at this shadowy deceitful action?

There's no reason to disbelieve that statement. Trump has said he wants to expand coal production, and that climate change is a hoax.

Just take him at his word. He doesn't need a study telling him coal is unhealthy.. he already has a plan, and he doesn't care what this study says. Therefore it is 100% a waste (to him).

It's not shadowy or deceitful.. he has been right up front with everyone on his anti-science, anti-climate change, and pro-coal agenda.

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Do they really need to conduct a study to determine that spewing black smoke into the air hurts human beings? The Coal lobby must love Trump. Glad millennials won't work for Coal or Oil.

You're probably premature on the oil bit, the latest oil boom is over but it was a good run for high paying, manual labor without any education requirements.

Coal jobs had the double whammy of cheaper energy sources for power reducing demand and replacement of mining veins to mechanized mountaintop removal reducing need for manual labor.

Oil demand will probably come back for the same jobs - until they can mechanize oil/natural gas drilling like mountaintop coal removal.

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Do they really need to conduct a study to determine that spewing black smoke into the air hurts human beings? The Coal lobby must love Trump. Glad millennials won't work for Coal or Oil.

You're probably premature on the oil bit, the latest oil boom is over but it was a good run for high paying, manual labor without any education requirements. Coal jobs had the double whammy of cheaper energy sources for power reducing demand and replacement of mining veins to mechanized mountaintop removal reducing need for manual labor. Oil demand will probably come back for the same jobs - until they can mechanize…

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Re: US government halts study on health effects of coal mining

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Shameful appeasement of Business interests against legit health concerns for coal workers and communities nearby.

All part of the "Keep em ignorant" brigade within the GOP. Everyone does indeed know coal is bad, but how bad, or any other effect on public health, from new methods of extraction etc will now remain hidden in darkness.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This study is on the health risks of surface coal mining (also known as mountaintop removal) on the surrounding communities, not on the miners. As the article notes there is some evidence of unusually high lung cancer and birth defect rates in communities near such mines.

I was eating dinner with two doctors about a month ago, and they were discussing this. They said it was difficult to prove that coal mining causes things like lung cancer in the miners themselves because it is just about impossible to find a coal miner who doesn't smoke.

Would they get cancer sooner or have different effects than non-miner smokers?
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