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Re: Juicero Is Shutting Down

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Post by tengbretson »

flyinghamster wrote: post #88
aoenht2nte8 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The concept of food that's uniquely tagged and tracked from origin to consumption is pretty attractive - makes contamination a breeze to trace back, keeps you from cooking with rotten food since the machine knows to reject it, and it could automatically track what you've got in your kitchen to suggest recipes / restock for you. What makes you think people want those things? I certainly don't, and I've never heard a…

Let's call it what it is: the Internet of Rent-Seeking. As far as I'm concerned, I want my appliances to NOT be networked.

Perfectly put!

Re: Juicero Is Shutting Down

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Post by zwetan »

jjuel wrote: post #61
andreasgonewild wrote: post #47

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Eating them whole is even better. But calling pressed fruit the same thing as the poisonous crap they would rather have us drink isn't helping anyone. It's clearly not the same thing.

Are you saying that sugar is good for you depending on the source? Sugar is terrible for you no matter what. If you have a juice with the juice of say 5 apples is not healthy. That is 5 servings of the sugar with almost 0 of the fiber. It is just as poisonous as a sugary soda or other sugary drink.

Your view on sugar is wrong and quite dangerous.

First, human beings need sugar to survive, yep it's like water, without sugar you die, in particular your muscle and your brain.

There are good and bad sugar, artificial sugar in food and drink sure are terrible for the health, but you also have natural sugar like fructose in fruits, lactose in milk, etc. those are good.

You definitively can not say that apple juice is poisonous like sugary soda.

Those are not the same type of sugar.

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Post by SeoxyS »

DannyBee wrote: post #25

Are they shutting down using a super-complicated completely over engineered method of shutting down, or the regular way?

As funny as this thread of jokes was (and it was; I had a good laugh), I don't come to HN for jokes. I come for interesting, deep, and intelligent discussions. I don't find much value in amusing jokes… isn't that what we have Facebook or Reddit for?

Re: Juicero Is Shutting Down

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Post by Justin_K »

hwillis wrote: post #126
overcast wrote: post #85

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Thing is, nothing about the Juicero is fresh squeezed. It's mostly masticated fruit pulp, that is squeezed out of a bag. That juice company you mentioned, is actually freshly squeezing juice. Juicero was complete nonsense from start to finish.

It's like... 70% fresh squeezed. The fruit is chopped up into smaller pieces, so for the most part there isn't much difference, and it is very new fruit. But to the target demographic 70% might as well be 0%.

Once you cut open fruit and vegetables, the elements and bacteria are introduced and they start to break down.

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Post by arkitaip »

SeoxyS wrote: post #183
DannyBee wrote: post #25

Are they shutting down using a super-complicated completely over engineered method of shutting down, or the regular way?

As funny as this thread of jokes was (and it was; I had a good laugh), I don't come to HN for jokes. I come for interesting, deep, and intelligent discussions. I don't find much value in amusing jokes… isn't that what we have Facebook or Reddit for?

Are you a goddamn robot, sir?

Re: Juicero Is Shutting Down

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Post by arkitaip »

theDoug wrote: post #166

Founder seems to be having a good time at Burning Man the day his company shuts down.[1] [1] https://www.instagram.com/p/BYaIlV4jFb5/?taken-by=dougevans

They have probably been preparing for this for many months now and now that it's over, I think the founder deserves some time to relax and reflect. I only hope the employees get good severance packages.

Re: Juicero Is Shutting Down

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Post by hwillis »

microcolonel wrote: post #173
wickawic wrote: post #167

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People might have a misconception about the machine then. I had heard that the juice was easy enough to extract from the pack that you could do it with your hands. This gave me the idea that the pack basically just had juice in it already.

It does, it is shredded vegetation in a bag which is squeezed by an amazingly overengineered solid steel screw press with giant, beautiful one-piece plastic moldings on the back. It is also true that you can extract the vast majority of the fluid without the press just fine. It is not "chopped" into "smaller" pieces, but literally shredded.

Nope; check it out: https://vimeo.com/214030931

That's mostly carrot (+lemon and orange) but still it's very dry. See also AvE's video[1] where he opens a bag and its full of processed but still largely intact pomegranate. You can squeeze most of a first glass out by hand[2] but that's about it. To get the rest out a press really is necessary- but Juicero isn't just a press. It's massive machined aluminum billets and expensive gears and a custom motor. The huge aluminum parts are likely the biggest cost sink- hundreds of dollars, easily. If they had made the things out of extrusions they could have saved 80%+ on the cost. Just goofy all around.

edit: also this... enthusiastic gentleman, who is pretty enthusiastic about the contents of the bag[3]

[1]: https://youtu.be/_Cp-BGQfpHQ?t=30m6s

[2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lutHF5HhVA

[3]: https://youtu.be/wOmB7H6meUQ?t=22m3s

Re: Juicero Is Shutting Down

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Post by SeoxyS »

nickparker wrote: post #50
jpao79 wrote: post #19

I think they went about getting to market wrong. They should not have targeted end consumers with their equipment. They should have went after the convenience store market using the soda dispenser/automated latte/vending machine/icee making business model. Basically convince the store owner to have some refrigerated space dedicated to the pouches and then put the machine nearby for the customer to make their own juic…

The trouble is, I've always thought Juicero was a bank shot for digitized food in general. If that's the case, they needed to be serving consumers not businesses. The concept of food that's uniquely tagged and tracked from origin to consumption is pretty attractive - makes contamination a breeze to trace back, keeps you from cooking with rotten food since the machine knows to reject it, and it could automatically tra…

A lot of my trust in Amazon eroded after the whole co-mingling fake-eclipse-glasses fiasco. If I can't trust Amazon to tell me accurately where the stuff I buy on their website is coming from… how can I trust them in the retail grocery world where there's so much more middlemen and variables in play?
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