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Re: Hacker News Daily (announcement)

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Post by icey »

ergo98 wrote: post #50
niyazpk wrote: post #4

cperciva, I really appreciate the effort you put into this. One thing I find a bit depressing is that even though this scheme hugely reduces the time one spends on HN by filtering the articles according to votes, the top voted articles are not the ones that I would want to read. I usually come here for that "hacker" hacker news (hackerhackernews.com used to be something like this, but now the domain name has expired…

I've taken lots of downvotes lately to say that HN is becoming less hacker and far more generalist. That happened to virtually every other site: Slashdot, Digg, Reddit. As the site gets attention (because of its core strength of great hacker content) it starts drawing in a non-core audience. Because it's a voting system the non-core articles will start to grow in influence. It loses what drew people in in the first p…

You're probably getting downvoted because of the age of your account. (Not that I think you're wrong)

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Post by what »

cperciva wrote: post #58
brown9-2 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps "Top 10 most-commented posts" would be interesting as well?

That's a lot harder to do -- I can get away with scraping the front page right now because highly voted posts are likely to be on the front page for most of their vote-getting lifetime, but that argument probably doesn't hold about highly commented posts.

You could maybe check /active ? Maybe the highly commented sit on there for most of their comment-getting lifetime.

Re: Hacker News Daily (announcement)

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Post by ergo98 »

icey wrote: post #61
ergo98 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've taken lots of downvotes lately to say that HN is becoming less hacker and far more generalist. That happened to virtually every other site: Slashdot, Digg, Reddit. As the site gets attention (because of its core strength of great hacker content) it starts drawing in a non-core audience. Because it's a voting system the non-core articles will start to grow in influence. It loses what drew people in in the first p…

You're probably getting downvoted because of the age of your account. (Not that I think you're wrong)

Possibly. I've of course lurked for much longer. Even had a couple of other accounts at some point but lost the credentials an..meh. Easy set up.

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Post by ramchip »

edu wrote: post #40
alexkay wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I second this! I would gladly pay 5-10 bucks a month for a daily digest of top hacking-related articles (no business, no politics and no Apple rumours/speculations). HN used to be 80% programming and 20% business-related, now it's the opposite.

I'm the only one the remembers when this was called Startup News?

Business is a lot wider than startup, though. There has been a huge number of articles about Apple - I seriously don't understand how such a massive quantity of (often gossipy) articles about the ipad/iphone and friends got upvoted, especially considering their hacker-unfriendliness. Then also a lot about Google, Facebook, Microsoft, the RIAA, general politics...

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Post by kloncks »

cperciva wrote: post #56
kloncks wrote: post #35

I'd be interested to know what you programmed this in. Do the .HTML pages mean you used PHP? If them, cURL? Lemme know.

I use FreeBSD's fetch(1) to download the page, but curl or wget would have worked just as well. Extracting the data I want (item #, score, and link) is a few lines of perl. Managing the data over the course of the day and writing out the final HTML is done using standard BSD text utilities (sort, join, comm, cut).

Thanks!

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Post by shaunxcode »

edanm wrote: post #37
alexkay wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I second this! I would gladly pay 5-10 bucks a month for a daily digest of top hacking-related articles (no business, no politics and no Apple rumours/speculations). HN used to be 80% programming and 20% business-related, now it's the opposite.

I have to say that's surprising. I'm relatively new here, but I thought most people would get here through Paul Graham/YCombinator, which has more to do with business than programming.

personally I came here because I would randomly check paulgraham.com ever since his articles relating to lisp were being posted on slashdot. One day the YC link appeared which in turn had a link to hacker news. While I have gained an appreciation for start up culture(definitely the hacking approach to business) since then I still primarily hang around for articles on programming.

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Post by shaunxcode »

Kilimanjaro wrote: post #43
niyazpk wrote: post #4

cperciva, I really appreciate the effort you put into this. One thing I find a bit depressing is that even though this scheme hugely reduces the time one spends on HN by filtering the articles according to votes, the top voted articles are not the ones that I would want to read. I usually come here for that "hacker" hacker news (hackerhackernews.com used to be something like this, but now the domain name has expired…

That's exactly why I created http://www.hackerblogs.com if you check HN frontpage right now, there are zero posts by hackers, all come from PR blogs like techcrunch, readwriteweb, thenextweb, etc. I highly recommend you giving it a try, it is still growing and I hope someday it may become the new source of real hacker news. * I dare you to find an article like "Flipping arrows in coBurger King" on the news sites righ…

wow good work! I just registered my blog after browsing for a few seconds and being able to click lisp and see my screen filled with goodness.

Re: Hacker News Daily (announcement)

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Post by mkramlich »

pclark wrote: post #48

Is there a service that aggregates all the hacker news aggregators?

since everyone's ideal is diff prob the most surefire and arguably easiest way for you to get the particular aggregated and/or curated view is for you to write a small script that does exactly what you want. if others might want same then make the code avail with a link from your HN profile. If a particular service or view hack becomes popular perhaps PG will add an equiv feature to HN itself, etc.

Re: Hacker News Daily (announcement)

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Post by joshfinnie »

wwortiz wrote: post #60
rmc wrote: post #59

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Very interesting. How come that view is hidden? How does it work?

I think it ranks, or at least it did when the feature was added, items only by people who have had accounts for at least a year. (I may be wrong or it may have been longer than a year)

If that is the case, then HN Classic is very good proof of the change seen in the submitted stories. I loved seeing the HN Classic homepage and might keep it as my goto page (if it is still updated).

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Post by bsd_junkie »

There are a number of article recommendation engines out there that can fill the need for "outlier" articles fitting even the most peculiar tastes. I personally use http://www.euraeka.com and even though it aggregates news from less hardcore programming sources I find it an incredibly powerful source of science and technology news that fit my taste. I tried Digg and Reddit recommendation engines but they all work on user-to-user based recommendations and most of the time i get either inaccurate or trivial recommendations.
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