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Re: Hacker News Daily (announcement)

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Post by alexqgb »

More evidence that curation, not creation, is the point of sharpest demand in the media business. The immediate challenge, I suppose, is finding the right mix of focus and serendipity.

More broadly, the challenge is having my own life modeled well enough so that information relevant to short, medium, and long terms plans gets reformulated appropriately.

I could see this leading to a point where 'news' is not something I check in the morning over coffee. Rather, it's a feature that presents itself whenever I shift my attention to doing another thing (e.g. working on project A, planning weekend B, etc.)

The really fascinating thing would be getting updates about apparently tangentially related items. It's the classic 'local angle', only with regard to activity, not place.

Re: Hacker News Daily (announcement)

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Post by roadnottaken »

This is a pretty cool idea and a perfectly simple implementation. However, I think you're solving a problem that doesn't exist: If I wanted efficiency, I wouldn't be reading blogs and news aggregators in the first place. I come to websites like HN to relax and browse through interesting articles and discussions -- sort of like leafing through a good magazine. If you distill it down to 10 articles then suddenly I'm finished reading and I can get on with my work... Too soon!!!

Re: Hacker News Daily (announcement)

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Post by troels »

panacea wrote: post #30
troels wrote: post #27

This doesn't really solve the problem though. There's still to much information to manage it. I wonder if any social-links-sites (hacker news, reddit etc.) have tried with an algorithm similar to that which last.fm uses, where you get suggestions on stories based on which previous stories you have shown preference for? (I'm sure this sort of ranking has some fancy name as well) If not - Why?

Reddit certainly attempted this a few years ago. They had a 'recommended' tab in their main navigation. It worked about as well as their search at the time (ie. completely useless). If I recall, it was based on your activity (this was pre-subreddits) so if you interacted with lots of political stories, for instance, similar political stories would be suggested. The problem was if you downmodded a bunch of articles in…

"The problem was if you downmodded a bunch of articles involving Ron Paul, your recommended links would be Ron Paul articles."

I could think of an obvious solution for that problem.

Re: Hacker News Daily (announcement)

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Post by roadnottaken »

elai wrote: post #28
alexkay wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I second this! I would gladly pay 5-10 bucks a month for a daily digest of top hacking-related articles (no business, no politics and no Apple rumours/speculations). HN used to be 80% programming and 20% business-related, now it's the opposite.

maybe we need categories? Biz&politics, social, apple, math, IT, programming, and other as an initial set?

then, before you know it, you're Slashdot!

Re: Hacker News Daily (announcement)

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Post by alexandros »

panacea wrote: post #30
troels wrote: post #27

This doesn't really solve the problem though. There's still to much information to manage it. I wonder if any social-links-sites (hacker news, reddit etc.) have tried with an algorithm similar to that which last.fm uses, where you get suggestions on stories based on which previous stories you have shown preference for? (I'm sure this sort of ranking has some fancy name as well) If not - Why?

Reddit certainly attempted this a few years ago. They had a 'recommended' tab in their main navigation. It worked about as well as their search at the time (ie. completely useless). If I recall, it was based on your activity (this was pre-subreddits) so if you interacted with lots of political stories, for instance, similar political stories would be suggested. The problem was if you downmodded a bunch of articles in…

can anyone find references as to why the feature was removed?

Re: Hacker News Daily (announcement)

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Post by edanm »

alexkay wrote: post #24
niyazpk wrote: post #4

cperciva, I really appreciate the effort you put into this. One thing I find a bit depressing is that even though this scheme hugely reduces the time one spends on HN by filtering the articles according to votes, the top voted articles are not the ones that I would want to read. I usually come here for that "hacker" hacker news (hackerhackernews.com used to be something like this, but now the domain name has expired…

I second this! I would gladly pay 5-10 bucks a month for a daily digest of top hacking-related articles (no business, no politics and no Apple rumours/speculations). HN used to be 80% programming and 20% business-related, now it's the opposite.

I have to say that's surprising. I'm relatively new here, but I thought most people would get here through Paul Graham/YCombinator, which has more to do with business than programming.

Re: Hacker News Daily (announcement)

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Post by lemming »

brown9-2 wrote: post #26
niyazpk wrote: post #4

cperciva, I really appreciate the effort you put into this. One thing I find a bit depressing is that even though this scheme hugely reduces the time one spends on HN by filtering the articles according to votes, the top voted articles are not the ones that I would want to read. I usually come here for that "hacker" hacker news (hackerhackernews.com used to be something like this, but now the domain name has expired…

Perhaps "Top 10 most-commented posts" would be interesting as well?

I think this would be great, especially as an option. The posts that generate the most discussion are often interesting, and curiously aren't always the top voted.

Re: Hacker News Daily (announcement)

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Post by edu »

alexkay wrote: post #24
niyazpk wrote: post #4

cperciva, I really appreciate the effort you put into this. One thing I find a bit depressing is that even though this scheme hugely reduces the time one spends on HN by filtering the articles according to votes, the top voted articles are not the ones that I would want to read. I usually come here for that "hacker" hacker news (hackerhackernews.com used to be something like this, but now the domain name has expired…

I second this! I would gladly pay 5-10 bucks a month for a daily digest of top hacking-related articles (no business, no politics and no Apple rumours/speculations). HN used to be 80% programming and 20% business-related, now it's the opposite.

I'm the only one the remembers when this was called Startup News?
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