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Good News for Young Strivers: Networking Is Overrated

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Re: Good News for Young Strivers: Networking Is Overrated

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Why do you think PhD is a waste of time?

I would say that PHD is not a waste of time only if you plan to stay in academia. If writing papers and chasing grants is your jam, go for it. If you are looking for one more thing for your CV, don't bother with phd.

Even better: get into the PhD program and then drop out. You have all the signalling of being selected in a fancy PhD, but it also shows that you're practical and interested in work and industry.

Anec-data: me and several other PhD folks who all dropped out of CS/Stats/ML and got plenty of offers for jobs and funding. :)

Re: Good News for Young Strivers: Networking Is Overrated

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would say that PHD is not a waste of time only if you plan to stay in academia. If writing papers and chasing grants is your jam, go for it. If you are looking for one more thing for your CV, don't bother with phd.

Even better: get into the PhD program and then drop out. You have all the signalling of being selected in a fancy PhD, but it also shows that you're practical and interested in work and industry. Anec-data: me and several other PhD folks who all dropped out of CS/Stats/ML and got plenty of offers for jobs and funding. :)

How do you properly signal that you dropped out of a PhD program to distinguish yourself from someone with a Masters?

Re: Good News for Young Strivers: Networking Is Overrated

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would say that PHD is not a waste of time only if you plan to stay in academia. If writing papers and chasing grants is your jam, go for it. If you are looking for one more thing for your CV, don't bother with phd.

Even better: get into the PhD program and then drop out. You have all the signalling of being selected in a fancy PhD, but it also shows that you're practical and interested in work and industry. Anec-data: me and several other PhD folks who all dropped out of CS/Stats/ML and got plenty of offers for jobs and funding. :)

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Re: Good News for Young Strivers: Networking Is Overrated

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The article gives example of Justin Bieber and Adele. For those two examples, there are hundreds who got where they are just because they knew someone important. Miley Cyrus, Jaden Smith, Charlie Sheen, Ben Stiller, Angelina Jolie, Paris Hilton. Actors/singers make very poor examples for this given that most of them mostly get to where they are by networking more than anything else. Lets say there was an absolute mas…

Can being related to someone already famous really be considered networking, though? I always think of networking as actively going out and making new contacts. Being born with a contact to an industry is just luck.

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Re: Good News for Young Strivers: Networking Is Overrated

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The article gives example of Justin Bieber and Adele. For those two examples, there are hundreds who got where they are just because they knew someone important. Miley Cyrus, Jaden Smith, Charlie Sheen, Ben Stiller, Angelina Jolie, Paris Hilton. Actors/singers make very poor examples for this given that most of them mostly get to where they are by networking more than anything else. Lets say there was an absolute mas…

This sums up everything I've seen so far: academia, companies, and startups. It makes one very cynical after experiencing how much things are driven by PR.

Academia is less so than the others. The main thresholds of ability is determined by publications and grants. Both of those are peer-reviewed in a fair way (either blind reviewed, or where the conflict of interests have to leave the room). You can be amazingly successful being a no name who publishes and gets funding.

Re: Good News for Young Strivers: Networking Is Overrated

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The article gives example of Justin Bieber and Adele. For those two examples, there are hundreds who got where they are just because they knew someone important. Miley Cyrus, Jaden Smith, Charlie Sheen, Ben Stiller, Angelina Jolie, Paris Hilton. Actors/singers make very poor examples for this given that most of them mostly get to where they are by networking more than anything else. Lets say there was an absolute mas…

I don't even know why the article would consider Bieber as a of case not networking. The article itself states that his career took off when he signed with Usher.

Likewise the Spanx lady "didn't stalk" Oprah but she did successfully send her free samples, which presumably required some research (ie. stalking).

Re: Good News for Young Strivers: Networking Is Overrated

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Only in Germany, certainly not in the UK - here Eton trumps PhD every day of the week.

I probably should have written in German-speaking countries. I never understood the "reputation" component in the UK education that also made it to QS rankings where Oxbridge are propelled by near perfect reputation while lacking in other, more-academic categories.

Coincidentally I wrote a comment that explains it the other day https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15088782

Re: Good News for Young Strivers: Networking Is Overrated

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The article gives example of Justin Bieber and Adele. For those two examples, there are hundreds who got where they are just because they knew someone important. Miley Cyrus, Jaden Smith, Charlie Sheen, Ben Stiller, Angelina Jolie, Paris Hilton. Actors/singers make very poor examples for this given that most of them mostly get to where they are by networking more than anything else. Lets say there was an absolute mas…

Can being related to someone already famous really be considered networking, though? I always think of networking as actively going out and making new contacts. Being born with a contact to an industry is just luck.

Have you ever known two relatives who hated each other?

Re: Good News for Young Strivers: Networking Is Overrated

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I've just written a book. (It's about social implications of a technology.) Pretty much all the sales I'm making are networking, one way or another. It's a good book! People who read it love it! But it's self-published, and I haven't worked out how the heck to get people to write about it, and so my sales are all word of mouth from happy readers. It's just become a college textbook (!!) so I'm doing at least somethin…

What's the name of your book?
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