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Re: GIMP 2.9.6 Released

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Post by krapp »

kazinator wrote: post #68
na85 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

PSD is an industry standard.

Sure; if you can say "industry" in reference to a bunch of people whose employability is hinged to a single PC/Mac application.

Not merely a single application, the entire network of Adobe applications, and the interoperability between them, which doesn't just mean still images, but audio and visual effects in commercials, film, video games, physical print, professional photography. Almost any visual media outside of the browser at some point interacts with Adobe and PSD files.

And someone whose employability is probably tied to a specific OS, toolchain or software stack really shouldn't throw stones.

Re: GIMP 2.9.6 Released

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Post by glenndebacker »

prathiks wrote: post #7
eponeponepon wrote: post #3

I've been very impressed with Gimp lately - there was a time that it was clunky and crashy, Windows builds were difficult to find, and usually out of date, and I often felt like I was only persevering with it on principle. In recent years though, it's been wholly solid. Was there a change in project leadership, or something - maybe just a new development workflow? I've known plenty of seemingly-moribund projects spri…

I have always advocated for Gimp but people esp designers want to stick to photoshop. Hope they understand the power of this open source

Hope you understand that some of use need non destructive editing...

Re: GIMP 2.9.6 Released

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Post by na85 »

kazinator wrote: post #68
na85 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

PSD is an industry standard.

Sure; if you can say "industry" in reference to a bunch of people whose employability is hinged to a single PC/Mac application.

What percentage of professional graphic artists do you think were using non-Adobe products through the early 2000s?

I don't know for sure but I'd wager upwards of 80%.

Re: GIMP 2.9.6 Released

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Post by fractallyte »

na85 wrote: post #61
kazinator wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Anybody in graphics design for more than 5 minutes any time in the last 25 years knows what a PSD file is. Because you are not familiar with a (defacto) industry standard doesn't make it non-standard. True. I haven't used any program for image editing other than GIMP since 1996 (which I first installed on a GNU/Linux system running on a Sun Sparcstation 20!) > I am in fact aware of no non-Adobe program that will re…

PSD is an industry standard.

Just like Word's doc format?

It's only a 'standard' for those closed-minded industrial drones who won't ever contemplate using something different. This is the attitude that causes awesome, innovative software to disappear beneath a morass of "But it's not industry standard!".

I create graphics. I don't use any Adobe software. Adobe isn't the only graphics software company out there.

Re: GIMP 2.9.6 Released

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Post by fractallyte »

michrassena wrote: post #21
120photo wrote: post #4

I curious as to who is using GIMP for serious work. I have tried it numerous time in the past but always end up going back to PS. As of late I been making a switch to Affinity Photo but have always been pulling for GIMP.

This is the first I've heard of Affinity Photo. The feature list looks very complete, for what I use on a regular basis. Are you a long-time Photoshop user? How does it compare?

Affinity Photo is excellent. It's a way yet from parity with Photoshop, but is certainly competitive. And it's subscription free!

If you're into vector illustration, Affinity Designer is a straight replacement for Adobe Illustrator.

Also consider awesome software such as Studio Artist (https://synthetik.com/), and Escape Motions offerings (https://www.escapemotions.com/).

Any conscientious artist should evaluate and consider these alternatives, if only to break up the industry's idiotic enslavement to Adobe.

Re: GIMP 2.9.6 Released

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Post by evilDagmar »

pcunite wrote: post #29
cygned wrote: post #25

Occasionally using it on a Mac. Most of the time I force quit it, though, because it loads fonts forever. It's not a "quickly open and edit a file" tool for me.

Not sure where this is stored on Mac, but on Windows, clear the fontconfig directory in the AppData folder.

That's not really likely to help. The main issue appears to be that since fontconfig (a lib used by GIMP) is only "native" to Linux, for it to know about the TTF files, it has to scan them all and build it's cache at startup. For people with hundreds of fonts installed it can be a real PITA.

I avoid it by being careful to not exit GIMP entirely (simply closing all the editing windows) until I am sure I won't need it again for awhile.

Re: GIMP 2.9.6 Released

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Post by DiThi »

prokoudine wrote: post #65
DiThi wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe the rise of Krita has sparked some competition?

We don't compete against Krita. While there's overlap feature-wise, we have rather different goals.

When I say "compete" I mean the most friendly way. I actually mean inspired. Crowdfunding seems to be gaining traction lately.

Re: GIMP 2.9.6 Released

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Post by pcunite »

evilDagmar wrote: post #76
pcunite wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure where this is stored on Mac, but on Windows, clear the fontconfig directory in the AppData folder.

That's not really likely to help. The main issue appears to be that since fontconfig (a lib used by GIMP) is only "native" to Linux, for it to know about the TTF files, it has to scan them all and build it's cache at startup. For people with hundreds of fonts installed it can be a real PITA. I avoid it by being careful to not exit GIMP entirely (simply closing all the editing windows) until I am sure I won't need it…

It fixed the font loading forever for me on Windows.

Re: GIMP 2.9.6 Released

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Post by dkersten »

Drdrdrq wrote: post #31
dkersten wrote: post #9

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I recently installed a fresh version of GIMP (for the purpose of running the exporter script so I can import the layers from photoshop files into the Spine animation tool). I'm only using it as an elaborate runtime for that script, but my impressions are that the UI is basically the same as I remember it from 15 years ago. So, while it's features may have improved, the UI does not seem like it's improved at all.

> So, while it's features may have improved, the UI does not seem like it's improved at all. That's actually a bonus point in my book. If it ain't broke don't fix it. I like that when I start Gimp anywhere I can just start using it. I am not a designer though.

Many people would argue that it is broken and needs fixing ;-)

I used to love GIMP and didn't have any huge problems with it (although, at the time, I liked the multi window layout because I was using a tiling window manager), but then I tried photoshop and the photoshop UI was simply much easier for me to navigate. Now I use GIMP only because its free.

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