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Re: GIMP 2.9.6 Released

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Post by na85 »

kazinator wrote: post #52
yborg wrote: post #50

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Anybody in graphics design for more than 5 minutes any time in the last 25 years knows what a PSD file is. Because you are not familiar with a (defacto) industry standard doesn't make it non-standard. The Adobe PSD file format is documented in painful detail here https://www.adobe.com/devnet-apps/photoshop/fileformatashtml... The format is binary and extremely convoluted, in part because it attempts to maintain compa…

> Anybody in graphics design for more than 5 minutes any time in the last 25 years knows what a PSD file is. Because you are not familiar with a (defacto) industry standard doesn't make it non-standard. True. I haven't used any program for image editing other than GIMP since 1996 (which I first installed on a GNU/Linux system running on a Sun Sparcstation 20!) > I am in fact aware of no non-Adobe program that will re…

PSD is an industry standard.

Re: GIMP 2.9.6 Released

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Post by stuaxo »

rootlocus wrote: post #12
dkersten wrote: post #9

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I recently installed a fresh version of GIMP (for the purpose of running the exporter script so I can import the layers from photoshop files into the Spine animation tool). I'm only using it as an elaborate runtime for that script, but my impressions are that the UI is basically the same as I remember it from 15 years ago. So, while it's features may have improved, the UI does not seem like it's improved at all.

> the UI does not seem like it's improved at all. I've always disliked the large widgets (very tall buttons, sliders, etc.). Every now and then I look at some screenshots from the newest GIMP version and there's no indication they're going to change.

You could use a compact Gtk theme to get round this.

Re: GIMP 2.9.6 Released

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Post by [deleted] »

na85 wrote: post #61
kazinator wrote: post #52

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> Anybody in graphics design for more than 5 minutes any time in the last 25 years knows what a PSD file is. Because you are not familiar with a (defacto) industry standard doesn't make it non-standard. True. I haven't used any program for image editing other than GIMP since 1996 (which I first installed on a GNU/Linux system running on a Sun Sparcstation 20!) > I am in fact aware of no non-Adobe program that will re…

PSD is an industry standard.

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Re: GIMP 2.9.6 Released

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Post by krapp »

lbotos wrote: post #13
prathiks wrote: post #7

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I have always advocated for Gimp but people esp designers want to stick to photoshop. Hope they understand the power of this open source

Think of it as Photoshop (Java) vs. Gimp (NodeJs). You are going to have a LOT more reach with Java for "career stability". That's why designers stick with it.

It's not a matter of "career stability." It's a matter of the printer you send work to only being willing to work with PSD or PDF. If no one uses Gimp, and none of your tools integrate with Gimp's native format, and no one else's tools do either, and no one can open the files in their email, making them less portable than Adobe files, then Gimp is a technical liability, regardless of its quality.

Re: GIMP 2.9.6 Released

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Post by prokoudine »

DiThi wrote: post #14
eponeponepon wrote: post #3

I've been very impressed with Gimp lately - there was a time that it was clunky and crashy, Windows builds were difficult to find, and usually out of date, and I often felt like I was only persevering with it on principle. In recent years though, it's been wholly solid. Was there a change in project leadership, or something - maybe just a new development workflow? I've known plenty of seemingly-moribund projects spri…

Maybe the rise of Krita has sparked some competition?

We don't compete against Krita. While there's overlap feature-wise, we have rather different goals.

Re: GIMP 2.9.6 Released

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Post by kazinator »

na85 wrote: post #61
kazinator wrote: post #52

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> Anybody in graphics design for more than 5 minutes any time in the last 25 years knows what a PSD file is. Because you are not familiar with a (defacto) industry standard doesn't make it non-standard. True. I haven't used any program for image editing other than GIMP since 1996 (which I first installed on a GNU/Linux system running on a Sun Sparcstation 20!) > I am in fact aware of no non-Adobe program that will re…

PSD is an industry standard.

Sure; if you can say "industry" in reference to a bunch of people whose employability is hinged to a single PC/Mac application.

Re: GIMP 2.9.6 Released

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Post by prokoudine »

eponeponepon wrote: post #3

I've been very impressed with Gimp lately - there was a time that it was clunky and crashy, Windows builds were difficult to find, and usually out of date, and I often felt like I was only persevering with it on principle. In recent years though, it's been wholly solid. Was there a change in project leadership, or something - maybe just a new development workflow? I've known plenty of seemingly-moribund projects spri…

> In recent years though, it's been wholly solid. Was there a change in project leadership, or something - maybe just a new development workflow?

Not really, no.

There are a few new contributors like Jehan Pages, Thomas Manni, and Ell. But the majority of the work is still done by Michael Natterer, same as 5+ years ago.

Re: GIMP 2.9.6 Released

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Post by prokoudine »

disconnected wrote: post #17
prathiks wrote: post #7

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I have always advocated for Gimp but people esp designers want to stick to photoshop. Hope they understand the power of this open source

Can GIMP load psd files correctly? I seem to remember that there was some trouble loading psd files, but I don't remember exactly what. Edit to add: I ask because if GIMP cannot handle the de facto standard image file type without too much fiddling, people won't touch it. It is the same problem LibreOffice has, actually.

Only as long as it's just bitmap layers with masks, and images are in RGB. Text layers will be rasterized. The rest of the features will usually be dropped.
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