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CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by tomc1985 »

freehunter wrote: post #162
tomc1985 wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pennies. And they have lots of them what with all that enterprise corporate schlong in their mouths. Hope that money shot tasted good, effing traitors ! Businesses over these things are stewards, they have a responsibility beyond profits and shareholders and "Put Your Biggest Customer First"

>all that enterprise corporate schlong in their mouths. Hope that money shot tasted good, effing traitors! Holy fuck. Let's settle down a bit buddy.

No. Sick of cloud assholes offering things then taking them away. Dipshit management types apologizing for their masters' craven pursuit of money. Wealth was the worst thing that ever happened to this field.

Technology shouldn't feel like indian-giving. It should be empowering, egalitarian, and eternal. Backup services promise to solve the eternality question, until one day they don't -- because PROFIT$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by X86BSD »

SimonPStevens wrote: post #147
X86BSD wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I backup quite a bit and after deduplication with tarsnap it's not nearly as much.

That's kind of another problem though. No way to predict costs in advance. All you can do is know the upper bound. I have approx 2.5tb on CrashPlan, so that gives me an upper bound of $625 per month. Maybe it might be 50% lower when deduped, maybe more, maybe less. Who knows. Not really a pricing model I can make a decision on. Tarsnap looks great for certain use cases. But it doesn't really make sense for home users…

You can do a dry run with Tarsnap to see how much it would transfer and how much it would deduplicate before ever running for Realz(tm).

Using the --dry-run flag.

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Post by ValentineC »

porker wrote: post #148
sumoboy wrote: post #104

I'm sure there tired of consumers taking advantage of the unlimited storage by storing PB's of data, and losing $$$. Amazon basically did the same thing recently removing unlimited storage. Business data is more a bit more predictable with storage needs and really makes alot more money. I dumped crashplan a few years ago due to the bandwidth restrictions and time it would take to download TB's worth of data, built my…

> Amazon basically did the same thing recently removing unlimited storage. I'm working out what to do next since they did this. I use Arq ( https://arqbackup.com ) and back up my desktop (Windows) and laptop (OSX) to Amazon Cloud Drive. Together it's approx 1.5TB of backups - and this is excluding a bunch of folders and accepting data loss on them. The doubled price doesn't appeal, but I haven't found an up-to-date s…

> I haven't found an up-to-date storage price calculator to see what my options are in the TB range.

For pay-as-you-go storage, I found this: http://coststorage.com/

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Post by demas1252 »

brianwski wrote: post #16
rrauenza wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My main problem with BackBlaze is a lack of a Linux solution: https://help.backblaze.com/hc/en-us/articles/217664628-Is-Ba...

Disclosure: I work at Backblaze. For Linux, Backblaze offers "B2 Object Storage". You can choose all sorts of Linux 3rd party clients! The billing is different -> half of 1 penny per GByte per month. This is cheaper for less than a Terabyte, and can be a bit more expensive for more than a Terabyte. Check the "integrations" page for pictures of a penguin: https://www.backblaze.com/b2/integrations.html Among others, Cl…

Is there any plans to allow backup mounted disks? I have a small SSD on my notebook (30Gb) and all my data are stored on external NAS.

As I know, Backblaze doesn't allow me to backup mounted folders from NAS. This is only reason I don't use Backblaze.

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by turc1656 »

I recently had evaluated my entire backup plan and CrashPlan was evaluated as a possible change. It was one of two finalists I was debating between. Boy am I glad I didn't go with them. I understand that they will not just cancel the existing users and are only preventing new customers from signing up. But let's be real. We know what this means. It means they will not be giving the individual consumers in any sort of priority whatsoever. The non-commercial customers have now become a legacy operation.

FWIW - the reason I decided against CrashPlan was: 1) I inherently don't trust anything that is unlimited everything (storage space, versions, undelete, etc.) 2) I especially don't trust anything that gives all those unlimited features for a paltry $5 a month 3) My speed was horrendously slow. Seemingly capped at about 2 mpbs (250 kbps). 4) The application seemed to be bloated and resource heavy. 5) They have a well known issue where you can wipe your entire backup from their server if you encounter the dreaded disaster scenario (or get a new machine) and have a fresh O/S with a new installation of the software. If you don't do the steps exactly in the correct order, it will see your new installation as being the source copy and having nothing to store, and subsequently wipe everything on their servers. I see that they recently posted something on August 1, 2017 about "adoption" which seems to be migration for new machines so maybe this issue is finally addressed.

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Post by syntheticnature »

rrauenza wrote: post #21

I think this means it is also an end to CrashPlan's peer to peer free backup solution? I don't believe their business plan offers that. Thank goodness I bought into their long service plan. I have 1.9 years to figure this out. We have one Linux NAS and a bunch of Windows clients. I could go with Crashplan Business on the NAS and then punt on the Windows clients. Or go back to BackupPC for windows... I hope their wind…

Hmm, they said end of service would be October 22nd 2018, so I'm wondering if they were only expecting one year plus sixty days, not 1.9 years plus sixty days... may need to check on your situation.

In any case, it sounds like the business version drops the peer to peer free solution.

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Post by AdmiralAsshat »

freehunter wrote: post #159
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #95

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I think you underestimate how many people are in the "lite data hoarders" category. I don't consider myself a huge data hoarder. I have about 4 Terabytes. That's the totality of two decades of collecting music, video, pictures, ROMS, game ISOs, etc. It's enough that I can still fit it all on today's portable external hard-drives. And I don't think it's really much more than other people who might do amateur photograp…

>I have about 4 Terabytes. That's the totality of two decades of collecting music, video, pictures, ROMS, game ISOs, etc. Good lord. And you need to back this all up in the cloud?

If you had a lossless rip of a rare album that is not on iTunes, not on Amazon, not on Google Play Music, and cannot be found via torrents, wouldn't you want a backup of it in the cloud as well?

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Post by ValentineC »

Ragewind wrote: post #83
jwillmer wrote: post #20

Really disappointed in CrashPlan. Giving the customers 3 months before the backups are worthless is not cool!

In the email I have received they state that their service continues until October 22nd in 2018, so that's more than one year left. I'm on a free account, so it has got nothing to do with a running subscription.

> I'm on a free account, so it has got nothing to do with a running subscription.

This sounds like something that was mostly missed by the comments here — does that mean that people who only utilised their peer-to-peer backup system need to find another solution too, because their software needs to phone home to work?

Relying on user accounts and "backup codes" [1] stored on CrashPlan's servers sounds like a scary additional point of failure.

Well, one more thing to add to my list of criteria for backup software: that it'll keep running, for the most part, without having to log into an account somewhere.

[1] https://support.crashplan.com/Backup/Backing_Up_To_A_Friends...

Re: CrashPlan is exiting the consumer market

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Post by mioelnir »

Looks like neither Backblaze nor Carbonite support E2E encrypted backups where I do not have to send the password to the cloud, or the private key is in fact generated inside the cloud.

Which means I have to really scramble to find something else that is compatible with computer-illiterate family. Geez, not what I needed.

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Post by noja »

deanclatworthy wrote: post #124
noja wrote: post #99

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You could switch to Backblaze, but you have to give them your encryption key when you restore. Use B2 with a decent client instead, you don't get an all-in-one plan for your family, but at least you keep control over your data.

I don't wish to store my families data in the cloud for a fee. Crashplan allowed me to use my own (spare) storage space to provide this for them.

That was a great feature.

Mind if I ask why you don't want encrypted data in the cloud?

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