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The Darknet and the Future of Content Distribution (2002) [pdf]

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Re: The Darknet and the Future of Content Distribution (2002) [pdf]

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Post by chrishacken »

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #34
tylersmith wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh man, it's very tragic that Sam has not updated his website. Stop us? How do you propose to do that? Edit: Also I implore anybody that thinks Sam is a "spook" to speak with him on Slack or Reddit. He is one of the smartest libertarian thinkers I've personally met. It's genuinely funny to think he might be an undercover narc or something.

Friend, your implication here was that he wasn't from Virginia and located nowhere close to there. Clearly he has strong ties there. That makes your comment misinformation. I propose that anyone who thumbs their nose at the idea that we as a community can do better than them should join me before they gain real power. We've seen what motivated devs can do. I think we should harness this energy, or at least try. I'll…

No offense, but millions of people have lived in Virginia at one point or another in their lives. Are you suggesting that anyone who has ever lived there is likely a government agent of some sort? That's just preposterous.

Re: The Darknet and the Future of Content Distribution (2002) [pdf]

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Post by tylersmith »

lumberjack wrote: post #11
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #2

The scariest project I've ever seen is OpenBazaar. It's a decentralized marketplace. It does for physical things what Napster did for music. Not the best analogy, since you have to pay for the things, but it's not far off. Right now they only sell trinkets, like sunglasses. But both the founders are former spooks. They live in fairfax, 20min from Langley. And they're adding Tor and Tails support in the next release.…

I find the possibility of an untraceable assassination market much more worrying. There are currently, would-be-customers of such a service who lack the necessarily contacts, and there are plenty of would-be-contract-killers who would take such a "gig". A possible assassination market that is untraceable might facilitate trade between these two sets of entities which is of course a good thing, because all trade is go…

Any ideas on how the internet could be changed to not allow that?

Re: The Darknet and the Future of Content Distribution (2002) [pdf]

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Post by tylersmith »

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #37
tylersmith wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Oh really? Let's find out. Antagonizing people from a position of power has a nice tendency to backfire." Heard a billion times. If you're right and they come for somebody as low level as me feel free to gloat. "And the fact that you'd do it publicly is further proof of the kind of people that are behind this." What on Earth does that mean? I'm more than proud to be working on this project and have no reason to not…

Antagonizing publicly. Not "being public about your identity." I've often heard pg say it's not important to correct people when they're trying to misinterpret you. Maybe this is what he meant.

You're surely not done are you? I'd love to hear more about the problems with free trade and how your company will fix them.

Re: The Darknet and the Future of Content Distribution (2002) [pdf]

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Post by krapp »

tylersmith wrote: post #42
lumberjack wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find the possibility of an untraceable assassination market much more worrying. There are currently, would-be-customers of such a service who lack the necessarily contacts, and there are plenty of would-be-contract-killers who would take such a "gig". A possible assassination market that is untraceable might facilitate trade between these two sets of entities which is of course a good thing, because all trade is go…

Any ideas on how the internet could be changed to not allow that?

The internet is designed to make any such attempts impossible, up to the scale of a nuclear assault.

Luckily, though, 99.9% of assassination markets are bound to be scams or honeypots anyway.

Re: The Darknet and the Future of Content Distribution (2002) [pdf]

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Post by tylersmith »

krapp wrote: post #44
tylersmith wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any ideas on how the internet could be changed to not allow that?

The internet is designed to make any such attempts impossible, up to the scale of a nuclear assault. Luckily, though, 99.9% of assassination markets are bound to be scams or honeypots anyway.

I definitely agree.

Re: The Darknet and the Future of Content Distribution (2002) [pdf]

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Post by sillysaurus3 »

chrishacken wrote: post #41
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Friend, your implication here was that he wasn't from Virginia and located nowhere close to there. Clearly he has strong ties there. That makes your comment misinformation. I propose that anyone who thumbs their nose at the idea that we as a community can do better than them should join me before they gain real power. We've seen what motivated devs can do. I think we should harness this energy, or at least try. I'll…

No offense, but millions of people have lived in Virginia at one point or another in their lives. Are you suggesting that anyone who has ever lived there is likely a government agent of some sort? That's just preposterous.

No, certainly not. The other founder lives in Fairfax, and it was just an interesting coincidence. I didn't expect someone from OpenBazaar to come in and (a) be mistaken about Sam's roots, then (b) have Sam change it.

The fact is, one of the founders of potentially one of the biggest technological developments worked for Snowden's old employer and lives 20min from Langley. They're shipping Tor support with their next update. It seemed best to ensure everyone was clear about the players involved.

Re: The Darknet and the Future of Content Distribution (2002) [pdf]

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Post by tylersmith »

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #46
chrishacken wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No offense, but millions of people have lived in Virginia at one point or another in their lives. Are you suggesting that anyone who has ever lived there is likely a government agent of some sort? That's just preposterous.

No, certainly not. The other founder lives in Fairfax, and it was just an interesting coincidence. I didn't expect someone from OpenBazaar to come in and (a) be mistaken about Sam's roots, then (b) have Sam change it. The fact is, one of the founders of potentially one of the biggest technological developments worked for Snowden's old employer and lives 20min from Langley. They're shipping Tor support with their next…

What does having worked for Booz Allen have to do with anything? I'm very sorry there was a mistake about Sam having once lived in Virginia but it doesn't matter at all. It has nothing to do with anything and I'd appreciate if you'd be up front about what you think is going on.

Edit: The way you said Sam changed his location as if it was a reaction to you is beyond hilarious.

Re: The Darknet and the Future of Content Distribution (2002) [pdf]

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Post by tylersmith »

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #2

The scariest project I've ever seen is OpenBazaar. It's a decentralized marketplace. It does for physical things what Napster did for music. Not the best analogy, since you have to pay for the things, but it's not far off. Right now they only sell trinkets, like sunglasses. But both the founders are former spooks. They live in fairfax, 20min from Langley. And they're adding Tor and Tails support in the next release.…

I'm glad we're such a hot button topic. When I left my previous job to do what I cared most about I'd have never thought people would care as much as you do. I'll make my first sale on our new version dedicated to you.

Re: The Darknet and the Future of Content Distribution (2002) [pdf]

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Post by 3131s »

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #2

The scariest project I've ever seen is OpenBazaar. It's a decentralized marketplace. It does for physical things what Napster did for music. Not the best analogy, since you have to pay for the things, but it's not far off. Right now they only sell trinkets, like sunglasses. But both the founders are former spooks. They live in fairfax, 20min from Langley. And they're adding Tor and Tails support in the next release.…

> . 13yos will be able to buy heroin. It's not just breathless speculation.

You are so out of touch! There are plenty of 13yos selling in the US, it's not like it's hard to find.

Obviously the way to prevent minors from getting access is to legalize / regulate.

Re: The Darknet and the Future of Content Distribution (2002) [pdf]

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Post by eli_gottlieb »

3131s wrote: post #49
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #2

The scariest project I've ever seen is OpenBazaar. It's a decentralized marketplace. It does for physical things what Napster did for music. Not the best analogy, since you have to pay for the things, but it's not far off. Right now they only sell trinkets, like sunglasses. But both the founders are former spooks. They live in fairfax, 20min from Langley. And they're adding Tor and Tails support in the next release.…

> . 13yos will be able to buy heroin. It's not just breathless speculation. You are so out of touch! There are plenty of 13yos selling in the US, it's not like it's hard to find. Obviously the way to prevent minors from getting access is to legalize / regulate.

>You are so out of touch! There are plenty of 13yos selling in the US, it's not like it's hard to find.

Well, another sign that I live in a dystopia, always nice to read on a Sunday night.

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