This is a "feature" I actively avoid. Why in the world would anyone want to buy something online without a chance to review their purchase? Other web pages don't even let you leave the page without asking "are you sure?".
E-commerce will evolve next month as Amazon loses the 1-Click patent
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Re: E-commerce will evolve next month as Amazon loses the 1-Click patent
#72> the technique of allowing customers to make online purchases with a single click, with the payment information needed to complete the purchase having been entered by the user previously
I remember reading about this in the Bezos bio - One click - and thinking I must have missed something because of how ridiculous such a patent is. I'm still convinced I'm missing something.
I'm all about copyright protection but come-the-fuck-on! Isn't this alottle too trivial. People get paid to work on this (patent) and they're happy with themselves?
Re: E-commerce will evolve next month as Amazon loses the 1-Click patent
#73I have always hated the thought that retailers stored my credit card information. Seems to be very common with US based shops. If this gets any traction I will need to fight even harder to opt out. I yearn for the day I can have one off transaction codes.
You mean like a temporary credit card number valid for a small period of time or valid for a specific vendor? We have those (at least in America), and have for many years. Services like "ShopSafe". They also create many hassles and headaches. Can make returns difficult, validation difficult (please show the card used, what, it's a virtual card?), and the rigor may not be great (reoccurring charges on "invalidated" nu…
Yes - exactly. And with a specified amount so I am safeguarded from anu surprises.
I have never seen a service like that - so (I think) it is mainly on your side of the pond.
Re: E-commerce will evolve next month as Amazon loses the 1-Click patent
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
As someone who has a software patent, you don't want to know what it's like, as an engineer, to see your work get abstracted into generalities for a patent. By the end of it, everything was so generically described that I couldn't even recognize it anymore. This entire system needs to be reworked or thrown away entirely.
I agree about how broken it is. But for a patent attorney, it is gold, if you can extend the idea. If I had more money to defend one back in 2000 I would own mesh networks...
> If I had more money to defend one back in 2000 I would own mesh networks...
Then no one would use mesh networks instead of almost no one!
Re: E-commerce will evolve next month as Amazon loses the 1-Click patent
#75This is a "feature" I actively avoid. Why in the world would anyone want to buy something online without a chance to review their purchase? Other web pages don't even let you leave the page without asking "are you sure?".
Because you can always "undo" the purchase by canceling it.
Re: E-commerce will evolve next month as Amazon loses the 1-Click patent
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
As someone who has a software patent, you don't want to know what it's like, as an engineer, to see your work get abstracted into generalities for a patent. By the end of it, everything was so generically described that I couldn't even recognize it anymore. This entire system needs to be reworked or thrown away entirely.
Software patents may be "strange", but patents are very useful in the rest of the engineering world.
Agreed, years of research and brilliant ideas should be protected. However one click shopping is a bit obvious.
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#77I have always hated the thought that retailers stored my credit card information. Seems to be very common with US based shops. If this gets any traction I will need to fight even harder to opt out. I yearn for the day I can have one off transaction codes.
These days the retailers don't (or shouldn't) store it. They store a token that the payment processor (e.g. Stripe) uses as a key to the card data that they store. If you as a retailer have your checkout page set up properly, the actual card data never hits your server.
That only makes it slightly better. It is still stored at payment provider. Hopefully they are better at safeguarding my data.
But if I only supplied a token. with a value I determined I would not have to worry.
Re: E-commerce will evolve next month as Amazon loses the 1-Click patent
#78I ran an ecommerce company for about a year, and one click checkout was the least of our concerns when it came to Amazon. The speed of delivery, prime benefits, brand recognition, and willingness to lose money on many if not most items are absolutely brutal to compete against. I'm glad one click checkout will be more broadly available, but it's probably not going to make much of a difference...
I love paper books, I love seeing them in my shelf, but since I bought a Kindle I just stopped buying paper books. It is just too easy to buy a kindle book with one click. The process goes like this, someone recommends a book in HN, they provide an Amazon link, I read a couple of reviews, at this point I'm convinced about buying the book or not, or even if I'm not totally convinced, the price, and the easiness of jus…
I'm kind of the same. I would definitely kill to be able to buy DRM-free epub books from someone else other than Amazon and have it 1-click integrate with my kindle.
Maybe some epub sellers could email it to your kindle with 1-click purchasing now?
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#79Retarded, fuck patents
Re: E-commerce will evolve next month as Amazon loses the 1-Click patent
#80I have always hated the thought that retailers stored my credit card information. Seems to be very common with US based shops. If this gets any traction I will need to fight even harder to opt out. I yearn for the day I can have one off transaction codes.
Why don't you like retailers storing your card? You get all the convenience with none of the risk (if there's any fraud the merchant eats all of it!).
Because I would need to detect the fraud first. And fraudsters tend to be clever!
I hardly ever use cash anymore so my bank statements have a lot of action going on.
How closely do you monitor those?