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Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Post by salvar »

hueving wrote: post #488
busterarm wrote: post #346

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Is it? I need my phone to do three things: 1) Make and receive calls & texts. 2) Run a small number of ubiquitous apps (maps, ride hailing) 3) Not get hacked at DEFCON. Phones with the Apple logo on the back do this job best. Their security posture is just so much better and you don't have carrier-enforced forced obsolescence from the software side. You literally can always run the latest iOS until the hardware _just…

>I'm an open source guy only as much as it makes sense. That means you're not really an open source guy. You're just using whatever is best on the market at the time.

Is this a No True Open Source Guy argument?

Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Post by simonh »

patrickthebold wrote: post #514
froo wrote: post #506

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>> Devices shouldn’t become outdated every year. They should evolve with you. I really don't understand this sentiment. I've still got my iPhone 6 Plus. I haven't seen the need to upgrade yet. It does absolutely everything I want. At this rate, the only reason I'm going to upgrade is if I destroy my phone somehow (I've yet to even put a major scratch on any of my smartphones over the years) or if a vendor comes out w…

>>I've still got my iPhone 6 Plus. Not the parent, but that's pretty new. I used a 4s earlier this year and there were several apps that couldn't be upgraded and/or stopped working.

Up until November last year my youngest daughter was using my old 3GS. She loved that phone and could even still download apps from the App Store. I know this because I installed Lemonade Stand for her last summer. You can't get that now because it only worked on the older OS versions, but there it was in the App Store for her 6 years after I bought it. I'd try and boot it now to check it, but I'm not sure where it is.

Planned obsolescence by big fat arse.

Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Post by ufukbay »

BoorishBears wrote: post #535
patrickthebold wrote: post #514

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>>I've still got my iPhone 6 Plus. Not the parent, but that's pretty new. I used a 4s earlier this year and there were several apps that couldn't be upgraded and/or stopped working.

I got my pair of Nexus 6 dev phones a month after my iPhone 6 Plus. The Nexus 6 reached it final OS update with N but the 6+ is about to get iOS 11. The iPhone 5s is about to get iOS 11. If it weren't for the 64-bit transition I wouldn't be surprised if it had gotten on the iPhone 5 as well. Apple gives about 5 years of iOS updates, which makes keeping the same phone a lot more feasible. Meanwhile my Google sourced N…

I got my iPhone 5S (The 5S replaced my 3GS) when it was released and I'm still using it. The only problems I have are a little bit of yellow tint on the screen and the battery not having full capacity.

Maybe I got really lucky with both of my iPhones but even though I hate to pay this ridiculous premium price for iPhones it kinda evens out in the end considering I use the phone for 4-5 years.

Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Post by [deleted] »

BoorishBears wrote: post #535
patrickthebold wrote: post #514

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>>I've still got my iPhone 6 Plus. Not the parent, but that's pretty new. I used a 4s earlier this year and there were several apps that couldn't be upgraded and/or stopped working.

I got my pair of Nexus 6 dev phones a month after my iPhone 6 Plus. The Nexus 6 reached it final OS update with N but the 6+ is about to get iOS 11. The iPhone 5s is about to get iOS 11. If it weren't for the 64-bit transition I wouldn't be surprised if it had gotten on the iPhone 5 as well. Apple gives about 5 years of iOS updates, which makes keeping the same phone a lot more feasible. Meanwhile my Google sourced N…

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Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Post by rimliu »

dijit wrote: post #490
busterarm wrote: post #346

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Is it? I need my phone to do three things: 1) Make and receive calls & texts. 2) Run a small number of ubiquitous apps (maps, ride hailing) 3) Not get hacked at DEFCON. Phones with the Apple logo on the back do this job best. Their security posture is just so much better and you don't have carrier-enforced forced obsolescence from the software side. You literally can always run the latest iOS until the hardware _just…

I have been having difficulty finding a good android phone that could replace the iPhone 5SE. If I go apple again, I no longer have the ability to sync my phone, since my Mac died under a glass of wine and I "replaced" it with a Dell Precision 5520 running Arch because the MacBook Pro lineup was untenable. I'd go apple again if I could actually backup,sync,etc my phone. It's a good device in isolation. But don't dare…

Why not to use iCloud? It handles backups and sync.

Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Post by colordrops »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #568
colordrops wrote: post #566

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Well I can assure you from personal experience, which is the oneplus three without a screen protector that I'm typing on right now, that the plastic protector that came with the phone started peeling off and getting dirt trapped between it and the screen in less than a month after purchase.

That's on you, not the screen protector.

I've had several phones with various types of screen protectors that did not fall apart after a month.

Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Post by lucb1e »

> Premium materials and true craftsmanship shouldn’t just be for the few.

At that price point, bollocks.

From the title and this subheading I was expecting something around 300, or at the very least sub-500, but nope.

Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Post by cerberusss »

erlend_sh wrote: post #577
zanny wrote: post #483

Since no one else has, I'll take the piss out of this "hollier than thou" bullshit. > Devices are your personal property. We won’t force you to have anything you don’t want. Devices are your personal property. The SoC is still a proprietary trade secret, the baseband is still spying on you for the NSA, the GPU is still a closed blob piece of shit. No mainline driver support, bootloader is closed source, firmware is c…

> The first actually open platform phone is the one that will have longevity FairPhone is trying to do that, in software, hardware and way beyond: https://shop.fairphone.com/en/

A colleague of mine showed me her FairPhone. She then proceeded to disassemble it, right in front of my eyes. She's a biologist and told me that she broke the screen during fieldwork. Just ordered a new screen on the FairPhone site and replaced it herself. Amazing tech.
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