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Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Post by leemailll »

nicpottier wrote: post #91
foobaw wrote: post #43

As someone who worked in a large OEM company releasing tons of smartphones, I'm actually impressed it only took 100 people to getting this out. I presume there was an incredible amount of sleepless nights, as this is no easy task. To be fair though, Sprint is one of the easier carriers to work with after T-Mobile. I can't imagine them releasing a phone on AT&T or Verizon, as their process is grueling. I guess since t…

Pretty sure they used Sharp as a partner, so it isn't like they started from scratch. That guess is based on this Sharp phone looking mighty familiar ( http://www.gsmarena.com/sharp_aquos_s2_taken_apart_a_bezelle... ) and Rubin having worked with Sharp extensively during the Danger days. (most of the Sidekicks were made by Sharp) I'm kinda sort interested in this device, but honestly I'm in the sit and wait given tha…

Sharp is selling a new phone in China, Sharp Aquos S2 (https://item.jd.com/4611415.html)

Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Post by ForFreedom »

All these phone hardware manufacturers say their phone is better than the rest by adding extra. TBH none of the extras are really needed for a common person.

A common person uses the phone for "hello, how are you?" and social netowrking, games and some productivity. Anything more one would get a GoPro.

I have an iphone 6 and albeit its rather slow at times and receive iOS updates as the latest phones to an extend.

The android phones in the market takes about a year for an android update to be out in the market and one would have to be really lucky to get the update.

The phone manufactures in general can claim that the materials used are from the asteroid or whatever but the phone is actually limited by the OS & electronics capability

Not sure how Essential Phone is going to change any of this.

Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Post by scott_karana »

posguy wrote: post #410
freehunter wrote: post #387

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Plus you have a great piece of industrial design. I love the look of the 5S/SE. It looks premium, it feels nice in your hand, it's solid, and those chamfered edges are so nice. It's a shame they went from that to the iPhone 6 design and stuck with it all this time. It might make bigger phones easier to hold but man it just doesn't look as nice IMO. It looks like a generic round phone. Nothing stands out about it at a…

Having sold hundreds of iPhone 5s's when I was selling B2B, I have to say I was fairly unimpressed. Not great battery life over time, if an employee left with iCloud enabled it was a whole affair with Apple to get them to reset the device and allow it to be reused, and the brick style design is not very comfortable overall. My favorite is the curved back, as is on most Motorola's and some LGs. Personally, I stick wit…

If iCloud was your problem, it's because you weren't using an MDM.

That's an OS-independent problem ;)

Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Post by colordrops »

rbg246 wrote: post #460
colordrops wrote: post #422

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That's another annoying thing. OnePlus uses a specific type of charger, the Dash(tm) charger, so you can't just buy any random USB charging unit, or else it will take all day to charge. And the chargers are expensive. The other problem is that the screen is not flat, so you need to buy a curved screen protector. For the OnePlus 3, they've been sold out for months, and have no plans to restock them. Furthermore, there…

I can only agree with the dash charger, I've had no problems getting what turned out to be better screen protectors than the official from Amazon for my one plus three. On the plus side I plug my dash charger in and forty minutes later I've got a charge that will last the day. But agreed that if I forget to bring it on overnight trips it's annoying. And the phone has worked flawlessly for my needs.

If you don't mind me asking, which screen protector did you buy?

Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Post by colordrops »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #551
colordrops wrote: post #540

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It's a low quality plastic on that loses its adhesiveness and starts peeling off in less than a month. I was referring to tempered glass protectors. I didn't realize that people still use plastic ones.

> It's a low quality plastic on that loses its adhesiveness and starts peeling off in less than a month. Again, I can assure you from personal experience that this isn't true.

Well I can assure you from personal experience, which is the oneplus three without a screen protector that I'm typing on right now, that the plastic protector that came with the phone started peeling off and getting dirt trapped between it and the screen in less than a month after purchase.

Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Post by dayaz36 »

Timing could not be any worse. iPhone 8 will be out next month so even the people considering buying Essential will at least wait it out another month to see how the iPhone is. And by then, the spotlight will be turned towards the iPhone and people will be less excited about Essential. They needed to release this months ago, as far away from September as possible

Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Post by thaumasiotes »

colordrops wrote: post #566
thaumasiotes wrote: post #551

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> It's a low quality plastic on that loses its adhesiveness and starts peeling off in less than a month. Again, I can assure you from personal experience that this isn't true.

Well I can assure you from personal experience, which is the oneplus three without a screen protector that I'm typing on right now, that the plastic protector that came with the phone started peeling off and getting dirt trapped between it and the screen in less than a month after purchase.

That's on you, not the screen protector.

Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Post by veeti »

throwaway613834 wrote: post #447
veeti wrote: post #388

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https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2017/04/over-air-expl...

Has this (a) been exploited in the wild, and more importantly, (b) even actually patched in more recent phones? Otherwise, how is this a justification for upgrading your phone? It seems like you may have forgotten what the argument even was. I was arguing against routine 1-2-year upgrades, not against the entire concept of upgrading for something wiht a serious security vulnerability. If a serious exploit appears in…

A) I don't know. How would you ever know? RCE can be silent.

B) Yes, in Android patch level July 2017 and iOS 10.3.3.

Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Post by TrickyRick »

zanny wrote: post #483

Since no one else has, I'll take the piss out of this "hollier than thou" bullshit. > Devices are your personal property. We won’t force you to have anything you don’t want. Devices are your personal property. The SoC is still a proprietary trade secret, the baseband is still spying on you for the NSA, the GPU is still a closed blob piece of shit. No mainline driver support, bootloader is closed source, firmware is c…

Also don't forget:

> Premium materials and true craftsmanship shouldn’t just be for the few.

Then maybe they should not have priced it in line with the iPhone?

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