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Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech

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Post by jdoliner »

j2kun wrote: post #55
jdoliner wrote: post #22

Little by little, Silicon Valley is supplanting the government. At this point it should be obvious that Silicon Valley companies feel no need to follow regulations imposed on them by the government. Some do, but those that don't aren't punished and generally wind up with faster growing businesses because of it. The government makes a symbolic effort to prevent hate speech, but where their efforts end Silicon Valley's…

You act as if Google didn't just pay a multibillion dollar fine for violating a law based on censorship of certain shopping comparison websites. SV is not beyond the power of governments, governments are just slow to catch up. For good reason.

By supplanting the government I really only meant The United States government. Google, it seems, is still willing to payout to foreign governments. Since they might actually Something that our government does often too, so it seems to sort of come with the territory of being one of the most powerful organizations in The US.

I'd be astonished if our government had the spine to levy such a fine against Google or start an anti-trust investigation for stuff like this which, to me, seems like a pretty obvious abuse of their power as a platform.

Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech

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Post by jacquesm »

axaxs wrote: post #62

Sorry to comment twice on a thread...but after thinking more, I really feel this is a dangerous precedent. The internet has been largely dominated by a few companies. I'd go as far as to call them nearly ubiquitous. When these companies start pushing political views, and start banning or otherwise blocking dissent, it becomes dangerous. What if, in retaliation, farmers of the Midwest banned shipments to California? S…

> This is how civil wars start, and I think the two sides should start recognizing this and not pandering to the loudest voice.

You're roughly 9 months late with that comment.

Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech

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Post by joelrunyon »

will_brown wrote: post #61
joelrunyon wrote: post #10

Meanwhile twitter is being used to threaten assassinations - https://twitter.com/search?q=assassinate%20trump&src=tyah I get there's ugly stuff on the internet, but when did all the platforms decide to start being the moral center of determining what's acceptable speech. Hate speech is still protected speech (in the US anyways)[1] no matter how horrible it is. > A law that can be directed against speech found offensi…

Protected speech has nothing to do with private entities allowing you to use their platform to promote your message, it only curbs the government from prohibiting/punishing your speech. So for example you have every right to wear a jean jacket in court that says "fuck the draft" and the government can't prohibit or punish you for it (famous 1st amendment case) but a church can have you removed for wearing an article…

Here's where I addressed those concerns

> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15042314

Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech

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Post by rdtsc »

zcombo432 wrote: post #18

Does Google still stand for "free and open Internet"? "Our values remain the same: The Internet should be competitive and open. That’s how it works today and how it has always worked. It’s a level playing field, where new entrants and established players can reach users on an equal footing. If Internet access providers can block some services and cut special deals that prioritize some companies’ content over others,…

Pretty sure some equal footing is more equal than other.

I have no doubt even Stalinist Russia had something in its constitution about being a workers paradise where everyone's needs were equally met etc etc"

That's basically how propaganda works by changing and redefining words and concepts.

Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech

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Post by calimac »

cookiecaper wrote: post #12

This is the issue with any "unmoderated" or "anti-censorship" network/project. We see it over and over again. If this is your mantra, you're going to be used by unsavory characters, and that toxin will eclipse your entire brand/project. Tor is a good example of this, and to some extent, it has happened with Reddit. We need censorship-resistant networks, but they should not be advertised that way , because that will a…

Just to make a respectful point of clarification; there is a difference between uncomfortable free speech and illegal content. Tor traffic is illegal. Hate speach or any speech the social signaling echo chamber of silicon valley that is coding our world is legal and protected under the first amendment.

Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech

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Post by aoeusnth1 »

joelrunyon wrote: post #73
will_brown wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Protected speech has nothing to do with private entities allowing you to use their platform to promote your message, it only curbs the government from prohibiting/punishing your speech. So for example you have every right to wear a jean jacket in court that says "fuck the draft" and the government can't prohibit or punish you for it (famous 1st amendment case) but a church can have you removed for wearing an article…

Here's where I addressed those concerns > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15042314

These snotty replies are so insufferable. No, you did not address his reply in your original comment.

Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech

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Post by retox »

cft wrote: post #13
blfr wrote: post #7

What does "alt-social" mean? Anyway, my guess is that this was caused by Andrew Anglin, editor in chief of the Daily Stormer, taking up residence at Gab.ai[1]. [1] https://gab.ai/andrewanglin

This crimelink still opens in Chrome on Android. I am outraged. Google, please take action.

I like the term crimelink.

How about Unsavory/Ungood Resource Locator.

Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech

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Post by EdSharkey »

totalitarian toh-tal-i-tair-ee-uh n

adjective

1. of or relating to a centralized government that does not tolerate parties of differing opinion and that exercises dictatorial control over many aspects of life.

2. exercising control over the freedom, will, or thought of others; authoritarian; autocratic.

noun

1. an adherent of totalitarianism.

Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech

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Post by jdoliner »

axaxs wrote: post #62

Sorry to comment twice on a thread...but after thinking more, I really feel this is a dangerous precedent. The internet has been largely dominated by a few companies. I'd go as far as to call them nearly ubiquitous. When these companies start pushing political views, and start banning or otherwise blocking dissent, it becomes dangerous. What if, in retaliation, farmers of the Midwest banned shipments to California? S…

> This is how civil wars start

This is what civil wars look like. Politicians being shot, people calling for the assassination of a sitting president, public institutions deciding which side they're on.

Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech

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Post by axaxs »

jacquesm wrote: post #72
axaxs wrote: post #62

Sorry to comment twice on a thread...but after thinking more, I really feel this is a dangerous precedent. The internet has been largely dominated by a few companies. I'd go as far as to call them nearly ubiquitous. When these companies start pushing political views, and start banning or otherwise blocking dissent, it becomes dangerous. What if, in retaliation, farmers of the Midwest banned shipments to California? S…

> This is how civil wars start, and I think the two sides should start recognizing this and not pandering to the loudest voice. You're roughly 9 months late with that comment.

The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. The second best time is now.
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