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Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech

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Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech

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Post by axaxs »

faet wrote: post #9
axaxs wrote: post #6

yikes... I'm conflicted. Not a huge fan of Torba, first of all. I checked out Gab a few times, and while I think intentions were good, there is a lot of hateful stuff there. That said, Gab as a platform and app doesn't itself promote hate, so I'm not sure I agree with removing it. That would be like removing Telegram because terrorists have been found to use it.

Much of it depends how public it is. For instance something like whisper needs to remove nudity/hate speech else they'll be kicked off iOS/playstore. But, you can still send it directly without issue.

Let's take Torba out of the equation and just say innocent Dev A wants to create a truly free speech platform, where anything goes and only illegal things get removed. Like voat, per se. We all see how that turned out.

I'm kind of curious why we can't have an uncensored platform that represents both sides. Is it because good people prefer censorship?

Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech

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Post by cookiecaper »

This is the issue with any "unmoderated" or "anti-censorship" network/project. We see it over and over again. If this is your mantra, you're going to be used by unsavory characters, and that toxin will eclipse your entire brand/project. Tor is a good example of this, and to some extent, it has happened with Reddit.

We need censorship-resistant networks, but they should not be advertised that way, because that will attract entirely the wrong type of early adopters. As if the chicken-and-egg problem needed additional complication.

Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech

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Post by cft »

blfr wrote: post #7

What does "alt-social" mean? Anyway, my guess is that this was caused by Andrew Anglin, editor in chief of the Daily Stormer, taking up residence at Gab.ai[1]. [1] https://gab.ai/andrewanglin

This crimelink still opens in Chrome on Android. I am outraged. Google, please take action.

Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech

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Post by joelrunyon »

MichaelBurge wrote: post #15

Maybe it's because the "first impression" of Gab when the reviewer uses it is that it's a bunch of trolls; while for e.g. Tor you have to dig a bit to find the drugs that everyone is using it to buy.

Maybe a better angle would be having a place / tab / section where it's contained or marked as such? Marking vile content is one thing - wholesale censorship is another.

Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech

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Post by rl3 »

joelrunyon wrote: post #10

Meanwhile twitter is being used to threaten assassinations - https://twitter.com/search?q=assassinate%20trump&src=tyah I get there's ugly stuff on the internet, but when did all the platforms decide to start being the moral center of determining what's acceptable speech. Hate speech is still protected speech (in the US anyways)[1] no matter how horrible it is. > A law that can be directed against speech found offensi…

Looks like a busy day for the Secret Service.

Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech

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Post by zcombo432 »

Does Google still stand for "free and open Internet"?

"Our values remain the same: The Internet should be competitive and open. That’s how it works today and how it has always worked. It’s a level playing field, where new entrants and established players can reach users on an equal footing. If Internet access providers can block some services and cut special deals that prioritize some companies’ content over others, that would threaten the innovation that makes the Internet awesome."

https://www.google.com/takeaction/action/freeandopen/index.h...

Re: Alt-social network Gab booted from Google Play Store for hate speech

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Post by bloobloobloo »

> Is it because good people prefer censorship?

No, it's because the dominant ideology cannot survive debate.

There's a reason why ethnic nationalism and race realism have exploded in popularity in the past five years, and it's not because the ringleaders are a bunch of trained hypnotists.

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