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Re: Amazon recalls eclipse glasses

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Post by yahna »

compuguy wrote: post #222
Black-Plaid wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Check out Edumund's Scientific, they have them for $5 (+7$ s/h)

I checked their store, and was unable to find the item your talking about. Do you have a specific sku by chance?

https://www.scientificsonline.com/shop/solar-eclipse?Page=1

Just bought 2. 30 dollars (5 each, 20 dollars for fast shipping). Might not even need them as we have welding helmets, but I don't want to screw around concerning my eyes. Accidently got myself with a camera flash once, that was more than enough.

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Post by iamatworknow »

Zhenya wrote: post #79
sixQuarks wrote: post #10

Here's the email I got, the last sentence had me chuckling. We hope to "see" you soon. ------- Hello, We’re writing to provide you with important safety information about the eclipse products you purchased on Amazon (order #---- for TOLOCO Solar Eclipse Glasses,CE and ISO Certified Safe Solar Shades Filter for Solar Eclipse Viewing (3-Black)). To protect your eyes when viewing the sun or an eclipse, NASA and the Amer…

"We hope to see you again soon." Fairly poor choice of words..

They'll see you, but you may or may not see them.

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Post by panarky »

dboreham wrote: post #180

Reading the comments here, I wonder if folks have read the article? The problem seems to be not that Amazon has recalled counterfeit items but rather they have recalled legitimate product, blaming the legitimate seller for the fact that Amazon can't keep straight where their safety-critical inventory came from. It is as if they have a bin for "Viagra" in the warehouse into which they put shipments from Pfizer, along…

The article does not say Amazon commingled glasses from multiple sources.

Before I purchased eclipse glasses from Amazon, I first checked with NASA for approved brands, purchased an approved brand, and have not received a recall email from Amazon.

The fact is that we don't know what happened at Amazon, whether they commingled inventory or incorrectly included legitimate suppliers in the recall or if there were real issues with the products provided by the supplier in the article.

Re: Amazon recalls eclipse glasses

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Post by snowwrestler »

panarky wrote: post #233
dboreham wrote: post #180

Reading the comments here, I wonder if folks have read the article? The problem seems to be not that Amazon has recalled counterfeit items but rather they have recalled legitimate product, blaming the legitimate seller for the fact that Amazon can't keep straight where their safety-critical inventory came from. It is as if they have a bin for "Viagra" in the warehouse into which they put shipments from Pfizer, along…

The article does not say Amazon commingled glasses from multiple sources. Before I purchased eclipse glasses from Amazon, I first checked with NASA for approved brands, purchased an approved brand, and have not received a recall email from Amazon. The fact is that we don't know what happened at Amazon, whether they commingled inventory or incorrectly included legitimate suppliers in the recall or if there were real i…

Short of an elaborate test apparatus, there is actually no way for a consumer to independently confirm they have safe glasses.

It's easy to make fakes that look exactly like the real thing. So a printed ISO code or brand name is only sufficient if the supply chain is secure.

And unfortunately, there have been plenty of stories lately about seeming lax stock management at Amazon that makes it hard to know exactly what you're going to get.

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Post by gamblor956 »

kevin_b_er wrote: post #191
avip wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are they actually liable? If so, we should have seen class acts by now no?

Mandatory binding arbitration. You may not sue amazon in a court of law.

Binding arbitration is generally not allowed with respect to product liability suits, except in the Eleventh and Fifth Circuits.

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Post by QuotedForTruth »

microtherion wrote: post #228
mikeash wrote: post #78

What kind of piece of shit makes these things? It's one thing to make a crappy knockoff phone charger. It may be less efficient and even less safe, but you can probably rationalize it away since they mostly work OK. But this is a piece of safety equipment with a single function, and people only buy it to use it in one way, which will cause direct and immediate harm if the product fails. How can someone live with them…

While I have no experience with sellers in this field, I once had a conversation with a vendor who sold 2GB FIFO USB sticks as 64GB USB sticks. This does not exactly blind people, but customers who use these for backups are in for a rude surprise. The seller confessed to the fraud, but was utterly unrepentant. I'm trying to have the same conversation with "Microsoft Support" callers trying to install ransomware in my…

You should listen to the latest episodes of Reply All podcast. They go pretty far to investigate one of those tech support call centers.

There is a part two as well.

https://gimletmedia.com/episode/long-distance/

Re: Amazon recalls eclipse glasses

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Post by rohit2412 »

rohit2412 wrote: post #212
breakyerself wrote: post #123

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I have the exact opposite situation. I got 9 pairs of plastic framed glasses on Amazon. They seem really legit. Only thing I can see through them is the sun unless I hold a light source directly up to the lenses. Amazon gave me a refund and told me not to use them. I'm going to try to research some more research on Monday like getting a hold of the company that gave them the ISO rating. This is apparently the source…

Hey, since I have the same glasses, this is what search lands me. AAS approved - https://eclipse.aas.org/resources/solar-filters Someone on this video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Jmdo5jJIeQ ) got this ISO certification - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5zcT8x8808gOE82aks3NUpPSTA... Another product page - https://www.daylightsky.co.uk/collections/eyeware/products/p... I think they might be safe enough. Update…

Update: Just make sure yours are not counterfeit.

http://www.prosolareclipse.cc/imageRepository/dff59a28-760c-...

Re: Amazon recalls eclipse glasses

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Post by PhrosTT »

jayofdoom wrote: post #210
PhrosTT wrote: post #205

So how long can I safely look at the eclipse WITHOUT glasses. Can I take like 5 second glances? Is there some minimum rest period between them? (I ordered glasses but will assume they are fake).

If you look at the eclipse at all without glasses, you will cause permanent eye damage. It's worse than looking directly at a sun NOT during an eclipse. Don't do what you suggest. Seriously.

OK.. I just assumed it was the same at staring at the sun... except without the blinding light that normally forces you to look away due to pain.

On further research looks like something about your eye having a specific point to focus on which gets damaged immediately.

Thanks.

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Post by Stratoscope »

halleym wrote: post #190
Stratoscope wrote: post #140

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Just to add to the other replies, there's another thing very different about a partial eclipse vs. when you looked at the sun as a kid. You were looking at a full sun, not a smidgen of a sun. There was so much light hitting your eyes that they stopped down naturally, giving you some protection. And there was so much bright light that you really couldn't look at it for very long without involuntarily looking away or c…

Until that instant when the sun 'pops' back out. Your widened pupils don't respond fast enough.

Your caution is well advised, but the sun doesn't instantly burn your retinas. You do get a tiny bit of time to look away before any damage is done.

I viewed the 1979 total eclipse with binoculars, and when totality ended and the diamond ring and Baily's beads started to appear, I lingered a few seconds longer than I should have, and still no harm was done. I didn't suffer any temporary or permanent vision damage, even viewing those through the binoculars.

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Post by agentdrtran »

woliveirajr wrote: post #220
saosebastiao wrote: post #218

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Amazon wanted the savings of commingling without the expense and investment in proper systems for it. For accurate accounting of the source of a piece of commingled inventory, you need sku-level inventories with unit-level accounting. This is expensive, because it means each unit needs to be individually marked (e.g. a sticker with a unique ID number) upon receipt, which is more labor intensive than just counting the…

Well, what amazes me is that it seems to have be done this way for a long time, no? If so, it has a very low amount of problems and complains, since they could grow so big. If bad suppliers were a constant, they would be bad-mouthed enough and wouldn't have grown that big. Or their inner working is better than this article implies...

It's been a huge problem for a long time with items like cologne and clothing.
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