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Re: Amazon recalls eclipse glasses

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Post by rabidrat »

slackingoff2017 wrote: post #8
projectileboy wrote: post #3

Interesting... the real issue here is Amazon's long-standing implicit tolerance of counterfeit goods from disreputable suppliers. I wonder how many more incidents like this it will take before Amazon finally does something.

They won't until consumers wise up. I've stopped using them completely, not worth the gamble. Their price advantage has eroded anyways. I don't see any advantage to buying from them relative to straight from the manufacturer most of the time. Amazon has done a great job squeezing shipping costs and margins. I doubt I pay more than 5% more on anything but I know I'm not getting any fakes

I wanted to buy some Tasty Bites meals. Normally I get them from Costco but they only have one kind and I wanted to try some other flavors. So I went online, found them on Amazon, and literally said to myself "I'd rather buy these directly from the manufacturer". So I went to tastybite.com and filled up my shopping cart and when I went to checkout, it redirected to amazon.com which asked if it was okay to put these items in my Amazon cart.

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Post by compuguy »

Black-Plaid wrote: post #107
dwaltrip wrote: post #9

Does anyone have good recommendations for getting a pair as of today (before next weekend)? I'm in the bay area, if that helps.

Check out Edumund's Scientific, they have them for $5 (+7$ s/h)

I checked their store, and was unable to find the item your talking about. Do you have a specific sku by chance?

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Post by snuxoll »

ecommerceguy wrote: post #209
snuxoll wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hell, I understand Amazon extremely well, yet still got confused when a Prime item that wasn't FBA never showed tracking information (stuck in Preparing for Shipment), had wife email Jeff Bezos and not more than 10 minutes later the damned thing arrived. The whole time I was thinking "WTF, Amazon?" wondering why it was taking so long to fulfill the order, all because I didn't notice the absence of three words on the…

Prime item that wasnt FBA = MF Prime. Appears there was an error from the seller uploading tracking info. If that occurs frequently (more than 2%..? of orders) the seller will no longer be able to offer MF Prime. Your email to Jeff had no effect whatsoever. I assume your understanding of Amazon is from a consumer perspective only?

> Your email to Jeff had no effect whatsoever.

You're right, though I did get a $30 credit out of it.

> I assume your understanding of Amazon is from a consumer perspective only?

Yes, but I'm generally aware of how Amazon works behind the scenes as well. I know the difference between FBA and MF Prime, but even so I had managed to overlook it until the item arrived and my wife had already sent the email.

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Post by SAI_Peregrinus »

ant6n wrote: post #170
throwaway613834 wrote: post #157

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Is it really worth your eyes and the extra money to take a risk on the glasses that you're still not giving up on them and planning on researching them? Why not just buy one that you know is reputable?

Where would you suggest one could get one?

See if any local welding supply stores have #14 or higher glass (or helmets) in stock. Some auto-shades can go that high, but many cap out at #13, and they're generally going to be >$300 for the ones that can darken to $14 or higher. If you end up using an auto-shade helmet you'll have to set the sensitivity and delay to their maximum values. Don't buy an auto-shade helmet that doesn't have these controls. It's also possible to stack a #10 welders glass plate inside an auto-shade helmet and tune the shade value to get to #14 if the auto-shade can't get that dark on its own. It should be impossible to see anything but the sun through the helmet + glass combination.

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Post by pantalaimon »

hellbanner wrote: post #68
typpo wrote: post #30

I ordered the top-rated eclipse glasses on Amazon a few months ago and they were counterfeit. If you put them on during daytime you can see indirect sunlight and even my kitchen light. They were shipped from China despite having "Made in the USA" markings and all the proper ISO certification fine print. I haven't received any communication from Amazon, so people who haven't heard from them should not assume their gla…

I just checked my "Soluna" glasses - I can see a high watt bulb in a lamp, previously I couldn't see any lower watt bulb :/

I think it's normal that you would be able to see the filament, no?

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Post by schoen »

DiThi wrote: post #158
schoen wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I stared at a partial eclipse as a child without eye protection for several periods of about 10-12 seconds (remembering that I used to occasionally look at the regular sun for 3-4 seconds without apparent injury). Unfortunately, this gave me an afterimage of the eclipse in one eye that lasted for six months (!) -- although I was fortunate that it didn't last even longer than that. The optometrist I consulted the day…

> although I was fortunate that it didn't last even longer than that It's likely that some of the afterimage is still there but your brain has been rewired to eliminate it.

I've definitely considered that possibility, and I figure there's probably no way to know!

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Post by convolvatron »

syshum wrote: post #163
piva00 wrote: post #156

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Welder's mask (specifically a number 14 filter) is one of the recommended ways to safely watch an eclipse :)

Shade 14 is key, as common welding Masks are only Shade 5 and still cause eye damage if used

to be clear gas welding masks are 5, its more like wearing sunglasses.

arc welding gear is generally around 10-11.

many newer electronic helmets go up to 13/14 which is enough, you have to remember to turn up the sensitivity on the sensors so that its always dark. otherwise it will stay open at around 3-4

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Post by microtherion »

mikeash wrote: post #78

What kind of piece of shit makes these things? It's one thing to make a crappy knockoff phone charger. It may be less efficient and even less safe, but you can probably rationalize it away since they mostly work OK. But this is a piece of safety equipment with a single function, and people only buy it to use it in one way, which will cause direct and immediate harm if the product fails. How can someone live with them…

While I have no experience with sellers in this field, I once had a conversation with a vendor who sold 2GB FIFO USB sticks as 64GB USB sticks. This does not exactly blind people, but customers who use these for backups are in for a rude surprise.

The seller confessed to the fraud, but was utterly unrepentant.

I'm trying to have the same conversation with "Microsoft Support" callers trying to install ransomware in my computer. Not much luck getting answers out of that crowd, but no pangs of conscience either.

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Post by a_c_s »

woliveirajr wrote: post #220
saosebastiao wrote: post #218

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Amazon wanted the savings of commingling without the expense and investment in proper systems for it. For accurate accounting of the source of a piece of commingled inventory, you need sku-level inventories with unit-level accounting. This is expensive, because it means each unit needs to be individually marked (e.g. a sticker with a unique ID number) upon receipt, which is more labor intensive than just counting the…

Well, what amazes me is that it seems to have be done this way for a long time, no? If so, it has a very low amount of problems and complains, since they could grow so big. If bad suppliers were a constant, they would be bad-mouthed enough and wouldn't have grown that big. Or their inner working is better than this article implies...

With the current system there's no way to know which supplier is a bad supplier: there's just a bucket of mixed legitimate & counterfeit inventory.

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Post by breakyerself »

throwaway613834 wrote: post #157
breakyerself wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have the exact opposite situation. I got 9 pairs of plastic framed glasses on Amazon. They seem really legit. Only thing I can see through them is the sun unless I hold a light source directly up to the lenses. Amazon gave me a refund and told me not to use them. I'm going to try to research some more research on Monday like getting a hold of the company that gave them the ISO rating. This is apparently the source…

Is it really worth your eyes and the extra money to take a risk on the glasses that you're still not giving up on them and planning on researching them? Why not just buy one that you know is reputable?

The default for me is definitely not to use them, but if there is info that will vindicate the glasses I'd like to find it.
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