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Re: Amazon recalls eclipse glasses

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Post by m-j-fox »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #50
6t6t6t6 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazon is de-facto a monopoly. The "invisible hand" does not apply here.

That's what the civil court system is for. Nothing invisible about that hand. They are in a world of $#!+ if anyone receives permanent eye damage from counterfeit glasses purchased on Amazon, especially if their insane "inventory commingling" policy turns out to be implicated. The article only talks about the sun appearing too bright through counterfeit glasses, but the real hazard is a pair of glasses that blocks ou…

I love how you spell $#!+.

Re: Amazon recalls eclipse glasses

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Post by scotty79 »

dingaling wrote: post #86
raverbashing wrote: post #37

Use an old floppy disk to see the eclipse. I'm serious It seems opaque, but it is transparent enough to see the sun

That is horrific and likely dangerous "advice". The mylar composite used in floppy disks seems opaque... to visible light. 54% of the Sun's energy output is in other wavelengths. There is no certification that a floppy disk cookie will block those. Plus it has a big hole in the middle, danger of inadvertent viewing. This is like the argument I have with other photographers every eclipse when they try to use their 'su…

Does eye lens focus UV an IR? Or is the amount that goes through the hole of the size of iris enough to do the damage unfocused?

Re: Amazon recalls eclipse glasses

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Post by oasisbob »

Buying any PPE from Amazon is probably a bad idea. Counterfeit or not, the barrier to entry is just too low.

eg, there are specialized climbing harnesses on Amazon which confuse the CE EN standard and the concept of notified bodies. (Which certify conformity.) Leads to hilarity like a climbing harness claiming conformity with the standards for intubation tubes.

Or, climbing equipment which is mislabeled as to its country of origin, with basic specs like dimensions being inaccurate.

The sellers just don't care, and Amazon doesn't care enough to stop them. It's barely one step above ebay for a lot of items.

Re: Amazon recalls eclipse glasses

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Post by avip »

dangrossman wrote: post #52
abirkill wrote: post #6

This isn't limited to glasses. I purchased a 12x12 sheet of solar filter film from a seller on Amazon, manufactured by Thousand Oaks Optical (who are listed on the American Astronomical Society's list of reputable vendors), and I'm also being refunded. I checked the Thousand Oaks Optical site and they have a list of legitimate resellers of their products, and the Amazon seller I used is listed. I'm surprised Amazon d…

> the Amazon seller I used is listed If it was "fulfilled by Amazon", it doesn't matter what seller you chose, you could have been sent a counterfeit item from another seller. Sellers using fulfillment-by-Amazon send their stock to Amazon's warehouse, where it gets thrown in the same bin as all the other stock of that item from everyone else selling it. When it gets pulled to ship to you, there's no guarantee you get…

Are they actually liable? If so, we should have seen class acts by now no?

Re: Amazon recalls eclipse glasses

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Post by adrianmonk »

joeframbach wrote: post #5

> "Customers may have purchased counterfeit versions of legitimate products," an Amazon spokesperson said when asked about the issue. Does this have to do with Amazon's practice of commingling goods from various sources together? I imagine in some warehouse, a big box of Panjwani's legit goods all mixed together with some not-so-good-goods.

Curious if this commingling applies to third party seller (Amazon seller accounts) only or if it also includes items marked as "ships and sold by Amazon" at time of purchase.

I could see Amazon having enough volume of the items they sell directly that they have less need to do this commingling, and of course they have some incentive to preserve their own image.

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Post by typpo »

subway wrote: post #80
typpo wrote: post #30

I ordered the top-rated eclipse glasses on Amazon a few months ago and they were counterfeit. If you put them on during daytime you can see indirect sunlight and even my kitchen light. They were shipped from China despite having "Made in the USA" markings and all the proper ISO certification fine print. I haven't received any communication from Amazon, so people who haven't heard from them should not assume their gla…

Top-rated on Amazon, and shipped from China on the same product seems kind of suspect. It's pretty rare for a top-rated item to be fulfilled by a party other than Amazon. Any chance you can share a link to the item?

Here's a link to the item:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N9T9CZL

The seller that sold me the glasses is no longer listed. The only remaining seller is the actual manufacturer.

Re: Amazon recalls eclipse glasses

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Post by typpo »

microtonal wrote: post #87
hellbanner wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just checked my "Soluna" glasses - I can see a high watt bulb in a lamp, previously I couldn't see any lower watt bulb :/

I am not an expert, so take this with a grain of salt: but you cannot visually check whether it blocks ultra-violet or infrared. So, this visual inspection seems bogus to me, since you cannot be sure whether all wavelengths are blocked. Be careful!

This is correct. Visual inspection can't verify glasses, but it can identify clearly fake ones. Being able to see a house light through these glasses is a bad sign IMO.

Re: Amazon recalls eclipse glasses

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Post by dwaltrip »

hndamien wrote: post #38
dwaltrip wrote: post #9

Does anyone have good recommendations for getting a pair as of today (before next weekend)? I'm in the bay area, if that helps.

To be honest, it isn't that impressive unless you see the totality, in which case you need no glasses. Completely worth the trip out of the way if you can go see it.

I'll be in Oregon for the eclipse! I'm pretty excited. I haven't done much preparation yet, but I was imagining that it would be quite helpful to have the glasses for the minutes leading up to totality.

Re: Amazon recalls eclipse glasses

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Post by dwaltrip »

mrb wrote: post #28
dwaltrip wrote: post #9

Does anyone have good recommendations for getting a pair as of today (before next weekend)? I'm in the bay area, if that helps.

My local Lowe's stocks them. I guess not many people know this because I wouldn't have guessed a "home improvement store" to sell eclipse glasses.

Awesome, thanks for the tip. I'll try Lowe's tomorrow.

Re: Amazon recalls eclipse glasses

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Post by 27182818284 »

typpo wrote: post #96
subway wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Top-rated on Amazon, and shipped from China on the same product seems kind of suspect. It's pretty rare for a top-rated item to be fulfilled by a party other than Amazon. Any chance you can share a link to the item?

Here's a link to the item: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N9T9CZL The seller that sold me the glasses is no longer listed. The only remaining seller is the actual manufacturer.

I have ordered these as well. I believe I have the correct ones. For example, I can stare directly at two CFLs and see nothing. Sunlight I can see the sun, and the sun bouncing off like a car window really bright.

The Amazon seller, GSM, assured me in a comment that if in my order history GSM Sales is listed I should be good to go, and it is.

I don't believe mine shipped from China or anything as they were ordered with other Amazon Prime products so I'm not even sure how that would work.

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