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Re: Don’t ruin streaming by turning it into cable

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Post by dorfsmay »

ImaCake wrote: post #75
emsy wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There won't be competition for exclusive content like Disney, AMC, HBO etc. except piracy which is still a lot easier for a lot of people, and if fragmentation continues, it will be Even more so.

I think piracy is the real competitor here. Unless they stop torrents they wont succeed here.

Make it easier than piracy, done!

Today you cannot pay for a recent movie unless you go to a cinema (which I personally find an anachronism). To pay for older content, you need to find who is streaming it, pay a subscription with them, then find in what country they streaming it, pay for some fancy VPN service, setup the fancy VPN, restart your device and now watch it.

Or, you can pirate it and watch it!

Re: Don’t ruin streaming by turning it into cable

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Post by fweespeech »

mattnewton wrote: post #61
ebola1717 wrote: post #45

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But people aren't gonna pay $10 or even $5 every month for a disney-only streaming subscription, if disney doesn't put out new content for it. It's way cheaper to just buy your favorite disney shows & movies. Disney is more established in producing fresh content for their subscribers - cause they're a studio - but that's a different question.

I don't think that's true, I bet at Disney's size and the sheer number of franchises they own they could continue to just put out movies and shows at the same rate they do now and keep them exclusive to the the Disney service. Their back catalog is enormous- we're talking Star Wars, Marvel, and Pixar all under the same umbrella as the Lion King. If any company could go at it alone on the strength of their portfolio i…

Also all the sports games via ESPN.

Re: Don’t ruin streaming by turning it into cable

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Post by tomjen3 »

calafrax wrote: post #40
PaulHoule wrote: post #2

Stupid article. There is the atavistic fantasy of "you can watch everything you want at one low price", except the price is not a low price, it is a high price. The big anti-competitive problem with cable is that cable and satellite providers do not offer a choice of packages. You get basically the same thing with all providers. Hollywood loves it because they get paid no matter how good or bad the stuff they make is…

don't forget that producing all this content costs 10's of billions per year so someone has to pay for it. both the cost of production and the amount produced keeps increasing so prices need to go up to.

Sure, but they can sell the content many times for one upfront investment.

Re: Don’t ruin streaming by turning it into cable

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Post by imtringued »

tested23 wrote: post #55
hyperdunc wrote: post #15

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Copyright infringement isn't theft.

Thank you for proving my point

How can you know that hyperdunc is a "pirate"? How can you know that hyperdunc advocates for further "piracy"? His argument is that there is a word for copyright infringement and the word clearly isn't theft or piracy.

Re: Don’t ruin streaming by turning it into cable

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Post by scarface74 »

darod wrote: post #69
scarface74 wrote: post #44

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If Charter is anything like Comcast, by not going through them for my cable I save monthly: $50 - 5 additional cable box rentals $10 - "HD Technology Fee" $5 -- Broadcast access fee $3 -- Regional Sorts Fee That's $68 I avoid by using Hulu + Sling + CBS All Access. We have 6 TVs, 3 Roku sticks, a Roku TV, and 3 Apple TV's.

you should also probably itemize the cost of each of those hardware peripherals.

The hardware peripherals are one time costs not monthly. But Roku sticks are $60 each and the AppleTV's (third gen) were $59.

Re: Don’t ruin streaming by turning it into cable

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Post by scarface74 »

ves wrote: post #56
scarface74 wrote: post #44

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If Charter is anything like Comcast, by not going through them for my cable I save monthly: $50 - 5 additional cable box rentals $10 - "HD Technology Fee" $5 -- Broadcast access fee $3 -- Regional Sorts Fee That's $68 I avoid by using Hulu + Sling + CBS All Access. We have 6 TVs, 3 Roku sticks, a Roku TV, and 3 Apple TV's.

Out of curiosity, what are you doing with 6 TVs? Even when I lived with my parents we only had two.

Owner's suite

son's room

home gym

wife's sitting area

Family room

Guest bedroom

Re: Don’t ruin streaming by turning it into cable

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Post by scarface74 »

Simon_says wrote: post #90
ves wrote: post #56

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Out of curiosity, what are you doing with 6 TVs? Even when I lived with my parents we only had two.

You need a TV in every room so you're never left alone with your thoughts.

What do you find so strange about it? Even growing up in 70s and 80s, my parents had three televisions. It's not like TVs are luxury items. We had one in my room, one in their room and one in the family room. Now, they have five -- two additional TVs one in my dad's "man cave" and one in my moms office.

TVs last forever or at least they did back in the CRT era. My Dad's TV is one I bought in 1996 when I first graduated from college. All of their TVs are CRTs.

Even all of ours were less than $400 bought over the course of 7 years.

Re: Don’t ruin streaming by turning it into cable

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Post by Ded7xSEoPKYNsDd »

jamie_ca wrote: post #72
0x4f3759df wrote: post #6

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The cable company here in Minneapolis is Comcast (the number 1 hated company in America year after year), which I can avoid by going through CenturyLink (the phone company). Thus I deprive Comcast of their revenues and don't pay ESPN a nickel. All I watch is Amazon Prime. My Internet is $30 / mo. Comcast Internet & TV is $49 per month for 12 mo (a teaser rate), their real rates seem to be $120 or $150, plus they stea…

If you're just doing it for web/streaming video, it'll be fine. If you do any gaming or videoconferencing, the latency on satellite puts a real damper on the "feel" of the connection.

I think gp is talking about DSL, not satellite internet.

Re: Don’t ruin streaming by turning it into cable

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Post by Simon_says »

scarface74 wrote: post #107
Simon_says wrote: post #90

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You need a TV in every room so you're never left alone with your thoughts.

What do you find so strange about it? Even growing up in 70s and 80s, my parents had three televisions. It's not like TVs are luxury items. We had one in my room, one in their room and one in the family room. Now, they have five -- two additional TVs one in my dad's "man cave" and one in my moms office. TVs last forever or at least they did back in the CRT era. My Dad's TV is one I bought in 1996 when I first graduat…

Since you asked, it's not about cost. I've never owned a television, so I find the whole thing quite bizarre. Whenever I see how friends and family use their TVs in their houses and what plays on them, it redoubles my desire to never own one. I don't mean to be that guy, and it's not like I don't squander my time on trivia pursuits (I'm on HN, after all). But the quality is just so bad, and the ads so obnoxious. Maybe you don't notice if you're accustomed to it?

I know that in the last 10-15 years there have been a handful of great shows. Real works of art. But a house doesn't need more than one TV for such intentional viewing. Surrounding yourself with TVs flabergasts me.

But I don't think you're strange. You're normal; I know I'm the strange one.

Re: Don’t ruin streaming by turning it into cable

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Post by codingdave »

ubernostrum wrote: post #59
ihsw2 wrote: post #57

The solution is, of course, for Netflix to open up to pricing differentiation. There is no reason for HBO Now to be offered outside of Netflix other than haggling over pricing. What's wrong with Netflix rising above the rabble and focusing instead on providing excellent user experiences and rock-solid world-class reliability? Just put in a checkbox somewhere that, when checked, added HBO for $X/month. Boom, it's opt-…

Amazon is already doing this; if you have Prime, you can add on subscriptions to HBO, Starz, Cinemax, and a bunch of other channels for a monthly fee.

Amazon would crush Netflix if they would just build a good UX for their streaming. We have both Prime and Netflix and literally the only reason we don't cancel Netflix is because browsing the available content on Amazon is just painful in comparison.
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