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Big brother is here, and his name is Facebook

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Re: Big brother is here, and his name is Facebook

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Personally, I think Google is just as terrifying, possibly more. As an example, just take a fairly normal life situation like going out for dinner with some friends, and think about how much of it goes "through" Google: --- One of your friends sends an email to 6 others, to ask if everyone's free for dinner on Friday. 5 of the 7 people involved use gmail or a google apps address. You've never heard of the restaurant…

The conclusion I've come to regarding Google is that you just have to accept it for now. The services that they provide are so above and beyond anything from any other provider that to not use them puts you at a great disadvantage. Google search is an order of magnitude above the competition. There is no serious alternative to Google maps. The level of integration that Google Calendar has with practically everything…

> There is no serious alternative to Google maps.

On an extended road trip last month I used both Google maps and Apple maps and found them roughly equivalent.

Re: Big brother is here, and his name is Facebook

#122
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you not consider shadow profiles a form of imprisonment? Perhaps not quite as strong as voluntarily giving heaps of information, but still a rich source of data on people who do not use Facebook.

About a month ago I started to receive Facebook notifications from people that I know. I am not on Facebook.

How did you receive these notifications? Couldn't it be friends emailing/inviting you to join?

Re: Big brother is here, and his name is Facebook

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post #9

Personally, I think Google is just as terrifying, possibly more. As an example, just take a fairly normal life situation like going out for dinner with some friends, and think about how much of it goes "through" Google: --- One of your friends sends an email to 6 others, to ask if everyone's free for dinner on Friday. 5 of the 7 people involved use gmail or a google apps address. You've never heard of the restaurant…

You can go a long way to blocking a lot of these by using some alternatives: * Using DuckDuckGo ( https://duckduckgo.com/ ). It is really decent and has good desktop and mobile integration. * Using a browser like Brave ( https://www.brave.com/ ) that blocks trackers etc. Android app is superb. * Using a Maps replacement like OSM ( https://www.openstreetmap.org ) on desktop and OsmAnd on mobile ( https://play.google.c…

And don't forget to protect yourself against browser and device fingerprint tracking.

Re: Big brother is here, and his name is Facebook

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post #108

I wonder how many people who write about big brother and 1984, have actually read the book. Because I live a life without facebook. In 1984 there was no opt-out - full violent dominant controll, all the time. Also over the thoughts. We are maybe beeing spied on a lot, by many different organizations - but I am not going to torture/brainwashed camp, because I THINK xxx is bad. I can also say it. So continue to critici…

But how much does facebook know abiut you? * photos amd comtact info uploaded by friends * tracking scripts all over the web * any datasets they may purchase to make correlations I'llbet they have a lot more on you than you think.

"I'llbet they have a lot more on you than you think."

No, I do know they know a lot about me ... so what? The do not have a army to take me in, if I do not think or act like they say I should.

There might be a point, if I cannot have friends or find a job without a fb profile - and for some people this might be the felt truth allready - and this is bad, yes. But first of all, I think atm everyone has a choice - and secondly, big brother is still something completely different ... that was my point.

Re: Big brother is here, and his name is Facebook

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On one side, I'm happy to see that people slowly start to understand the situation.

On the other side, I'm kind of shocked it took so long. The way these companies were going to take control over us was so obvious about 15 years ago. A lot of damage is done, now.

Re: Big brother is here, and his name is Facebook

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post #79
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It gets even more frightening if you realize that you're probably not even considering all of the "deeper" levels. Almost everything I listed in my comment was pretty surface-level stuff, where it's at least somewhat obvious that you're giving the data to them (some things like the analytics not so much, but still not really "hidden"). But now start thinking about some other things: - Are any of the sites you're usin…

It almost seems impossible to use the internet for even a day without having some usage information leaked to Google.

Even if you don't install any GApps, Android would still ping Google servers. I can't remember exactly since it was a while ago, but IIRC it was some hardcoded NTP server.

Not much but still a heartbeat per GeoIP.

Re: Big brother is here, and his name is Facebook

#128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The conclusion I've come to regarding Google is that you just have to accept it for now. The services that they provide are so above and beyond anything from any other provider that to not use them puts you at a great disadvantage. Google search is an order of magnitude above the competition. There is no serious alternative to Google maps. The level of integration that Google Calendar has with practically everything…

Google uses the information they collect on you to target their ads (and who knows what else), just as Facebook does. They happen to have a bit more window dressing that is of actual utility. All that makes them is a bit smarter but not fundamentally better than FB.

s/bit/lot

Re: Big brother is here, and his name is Facebook

#129
post #9

Personally, I think Google is just as terrifying, possibly more. As an example, just take a fairly normal life situation like going out for dinner with some friends, and think about how much of it goes "through" Google: --- One of your friends sends an email to 6 others, to ask if everyone's free for dinner on Friday. 5 of the 7 people involved use gmail or a google apps address. You've never heard of the restaurant…

I was a bit creeped out the other day when I was off work sick, and Google play music offered up a "working from home" radio station.
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