YouTube AI deletes war crimes evidence as 'extremist material'

Post by dang » Sat, Aug 12, 2017, 7:54 PM UTC

crusso wrote: post #58

should be required by law If your videos don't pass the algorithm, post them somewhere else rather than reaching for the government hammer. Youtube/Google has every right to run their business of posting or denying video content the way they see fit without justifying it to you, free user of their service. If you think they're making a bad business decision and that there's a need for a video service that gives great…

Post by jonex » Sat, Aug 12, 2017, 8:02 PM UTC

macintux wrote: post #92

AmIFirstToThink wrote: post #67

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And, Government has right to break up monopolies. I now fully support breaking up Google, Amazon, Facebook and Microsoft; may be Apple. Executives at publicly traded companies have no right to enforce their individual political views as company policies. They are not privately held companies, they are public companies who are held at higher standards of equal treatment to all. What if Bic and Mead said you can't writ…

When you find something Apple has a monopoly on, you might have a point there. The only monopoly they've ever had is on taste, and for a short period of time I suppose you could argue MP3 players.

Post by ikeboy » Sat, Aug 12, 2017, 8:05 PM UTC

ballenf wrote: post #30

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #8

It was folly to think that YouTube would be a safe place to document war crimes. YouTube is a distribution channel, not a preservation channel. Its ease of use certainly makes it an attractive option to upload things quickly, but anything of historical significance should have the video raws immediately turned over to a human rights organization for preservation.

Youtube used to be a distribution channel but it slowly became an ad delivery tool with content along for the ride. Like 99% of other free (and even some paid) internet sites. Either way, totally agree that it's a tragic situation. The only sympathy I have for Google is that trying to separate the good vs. "evil" (as in "Don't be evil.") content is a monumental task that machine learning will probably never be capabl…

Post by krapp » Sat, Aug 12, 2017, 8:14 PM UTC

jMyles wrote: post #112

crusso wrote: post #100

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You ignored the first part of my post where I said: post elsewhere rather than appealing to government authority. My last statement was suggesting a better idea in a free society than to try to bit-by-bit destroy that free society with yet more overpowering, overintrusive government. The implied position is that Google is doing something bad for society That completely doesn't compute. Google isn't in business to mak…

I wholeheartedly share your "don't run to government" sentiment. However, this sentiment bugs me: > That completely doesn't compute. Google isn't in business to make things better for society. If we're going to refrain from seeking the violence of state intervention when actors do things we don't like, don't we then have to count on business (and more generally, the market) to do things that we do like? Yes, I want G…

Post by Spivak » Sat, Aug 12, 2017, 8:20 PM UTC

aiyodev wrote: post #126

giancarlostoro wrote: post #45

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That is a little insane... Makes me wish there was some sort of website that archived specific YouTube videos marked as historical or criminal evidence or some sort of qualification, as long as they don't abuse copyright just to make sure if places like YouTube delete them they can remain. Or a service that uploads to multiple video streaming sources at once (though I imagine these might violate the TOS of YouTube fo…

Not to pick on you because this seems to be a popular opinion but I would just like to point out the insanity of your what you just wrote. "as long as they don't abuse copyright" Would we delete videos of the liberation of concentration camps if there was Nickelback music playing in the background? This just demonstrates how successful media companies have been in distorting the true purpose of copyright laws: to pro…