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Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Will this address the absurd automatic updates/reboot "feature"? I've had the experience multiple times where a step away for a few minutes and come back to a blank desktop, even during the "active hours" period. This is especially infuriating when I do most of my work in a vbox slackware VM and win10 is just a host that I want to stay out of the way; instead I lose my entire current state. This seems like a major de…

I just disable the windows update service under "Services" and re-enable once every two weeks (and run the Windows Update GUI to click "search for updates" or what's it called) to keep everything up-to-date. Has worked without problems for the last year.

They should just copy a linux distro. Mint would be a good one. Have a little icon that tells me when I'm out of date, then I can click it and update at my convenience. I think iphone does this, right? To operate their OS? So it is possible to make this work for "normal" users, whomever they are.

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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It's simple fact that Windows needs to reboot to install updates. Does it suck? Yes! Is it a necessary part of life if you choose to use Windows? Also yes. People seem to complain about Windows rebooting outside of their control. This fixes that problem, and it's not like most people need their computer to be on when they're asleep anyway.

It's also a part of life on my Macs, just not as often since it seems like they don't get updates as often as my Windows machines.

Macs don't reboot without you taking an action if you have automatic update installation disabled. You have to click a button to apply the updates after which it will reboot. But it tells you this in the dialog where you agree to apply the updates. Windows just applies them and reboots when you're not actively using the machine.

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Rebooting your computer daily will do the trick. Either shut it down at the end of the day, or give it a reboot. It will do its thing and leave you alone for the next 24 hours. Before you downvote me, which many of you have done already for some reason, please keep in mind that this advice actually works. It's not my decision to have things work like this. That's on Microsoft. But it does work, and is legitimate advi…

Except for us crazy individuals that need the computer on for uninterrupted data processing. I have Windows only software that can take two weeks to complete a dataset. There is no intermediate data backup, so if the job is killed, I have to start over. My only reliable option has been to keep it off the network.

How about a server version of Windows?

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Will this address the absurd automatic updates/reboot "feature"? I've had the experience multiple times where a step away for a few minutes and come back to a blank desktop, even during the "active hours" period. This is especially infuriating when I do most of my work in a vbox slackware VM and win10 is just a host that I want to stay out of the way; instead I lose my entire current state. This seems like a major de…

This happened to me last night. I was so pissed this morning. I got used to making sure I never left things on over a Tuesday night because they do updates, but this caught me on a Thursday. Hopefully this will be the year of the Linux desktop......

There are currently two great options for running Linux and still having a productive desktop experience. One is ChromeOS the other is Win 10 with Linux subsystem and an Ubuntu image. Been using both for a little while now and they are really nice.

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Microsoft had been testing my patience for a while, but Windows 10 was the straw that broke the camels back. I no longer support or use Windows and am a happier/healthier person for it. Ya'll should try it too! Microsoft is not a good faith actor in the software world, at all. All the "open-source" push they have been doing of late to stem the tide reeks of the 90's... and what frustates me the most is people are so…

I literally only have windows for games now. The OS is pushing my patience to the point where I'm considering giving up half my steam library and sticking to MacOS / Linux. A couple nights ago my PC woke up in the middle of the night and started an update. I had to get up and force shut it down. I don't think there's anything Microsoft can do to reverse the damage now.

So you don't want it to update while you're using it. And you don't want it to update when you're not using it.

When, exactly, is it OK for it to update?

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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It's also a part of life on my Macs, just not as often since it seems like they don't get updates as often as my Windows machines.

Macs don't reboot without you taking an action if you have automatic update installation disabled. You have to click a button to apply the updates after which it will reboot. But it tells you this in the dialog where you agree to apply the updates. Windows just applies them and reboots when you're not actively using the machine.

I wasn't responding to that, I was responding to the part about "OS needs to reboot to install updates" being a part of life - it definitely ain't just a Windows thing.

Anyway, I'm glad that Windows restarts for me when I'm sleeping and I wish my Macs would do the same. It's pretty easy to avoid having it restart at the wrong time - you just go into the Settings and tell Windows what your active hours are. They let you enter a time range of up to 18 hours.

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Except for us crazy individuals that need the computer on for uninterrupted data processing. I have Windows only software that can take two weeks to complete a dataset. There is no intermediate data backup, so if the job is killed, I have to start over. My only reliable option has been to keep it off the network.

This is a prime use case for a workstation and it's hard for me to believe that Microsoft didn't expose better control over updates. More than a few times, I've come to work, wiggled my mouse and been greeted with a blank desktop. It's soooo frustrating that I need to spend the first 15 minutes of my day launching applications, loading projects, digging up notes, etc... when it was all arranged perfectly just a few h…

Oh yeah. On top of the fresh bloat it also reset lots of registry entries and other hidden features. Not a fan of that.

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Same with linux distros. Variety is unproductive.

Counter argument, variety is choice, choice is freedom. (not strictly true, you could have only the illusion of choice and freedom, and other arguments, I mean I've written essays on choice ...)

PS: In the case of companies selling many different versions of the same product/service, choice can be used to confuse consumers.

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Will this address the absurd automatic updates/reboot "feature"? I've had the experience multiple times where a step away for a few minutes and come back to a blank desktop, even during the "active hours" period. This is especially infuriating when I do most of my work in a vbox slackware VM and win10 is just a host that I want to stay out of the way; instead I lose my entire current state. This seems like a major de…

> > Has anyone found a reliable way to disable automatic reboots for Windows 10 Pro? My registry mods have all eventually stopped working. Yes. https://www.udse.de/en/windows-10-reboot-blocker . A little program that runs in the background and continually changes the time window when updates would be allowed to exclude the next period. Like you I run VMs and they don't always cleanly shut down when Windows decides to…

Thanks. I will try this.
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