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Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Except for us crazy individuals that need the computer on for uninterrupted data processing. I have Windows only software that can take two weeks to complete a dataset. There is no intermediate data backup, so if the job is killed, I have to start over. My only reliable option has been to keep it off the network.

> I have Windows only software that can take two weeks to complete a dataset What kind of sadistic monster wrote this?

Bet you $5 it's an R script.

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Same with linux distros. Variety is unproductive.

Linux isn't a single company though. There are around 25 different editions of windows 10. It's very difficult to know what you need to buy. And when you read their... licensing white paper... it quickly becomes clear that you can't legally affordably use any of them for a lot of normal usecases.

You get the one that comes with the device you buy. All other cases your company has departments that can figure it out.

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Well $539/yr is not quite the same as $500 for life. Plus, MSDN software should only be used for development, using it e.g. as a workstation would technically be a violation, albeit one that is unenforceable. And yes, I am aware that if you install it in the first year, it will continue to work long after your MSDN license has expired. My interest is not in "getting it", or "keeping it working", but rather doing ever…

Nah you don't need to renew it. You pay $1200 upfront and it comes with a bunch of license keys, each allowing multiple activations, that you get to keep even if you do not renew the subscription. Renewal is only if you want a key for future versions of windows (Windows 11?), which there won't be according to Microsoft. The catch is that the license prevents you from using it as a main/production machine, it's for de…

Yes, see my rather extensive edit.

It's only $539, though. The cheaper MSDN tier seems to include LTSB according to the product matrix.

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I wish I could do the same but I don't have the time to relearn everything from scratch. Did you use any specific resources in transitioning from windows to linux?

It really depends on what you do, what you work on. System administration is very different, as is GUI development. Other things aren't that different and a lot of back-end, devops-ish, trendy stuff is cross-platform.

I sort of like to play with everything: virtualisation, websites, desktop development. Which is why that's quite a lot to learn, and not a trivial exercise without a GUI.

In fact if it wasn't for the disaster that windows 10 has become, I would rather stay in the MS environment. Visual Studio/.net/C#/VB.net are a treat, and I am concerned I won't find tools and languages that are that integrated and polished in the linux world.

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You're not a regular end user. The Microsoft way is for you to get the more expensive license so you can use group policies to adjust this behavior.

...which is kind of why people are upset. Things that were possible, i.e. total control over when PC's install updates and how they do them, are now not unless you pony up for a more expensive license. We're not talking Bitlocker or anything here, we're talking control over the system. I agree it's not a typical use case, but it was an understood use case for a very long time. My only real beef with Windows 10 is the…

I understand and agree that it's bullshit. But for normal end users it works fine.

And part of me does think that I prefer the majority of the clueless end users to be forced to update. Having to support outdated operating systems and browsers is pretty horrible. And making it harder for botnets to spread is also a pretty good thing.

But yes, there should just be a simple setting. Sadly there isn't so we're left to resorting to shitty workarounds.

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> Faster file sharing: Windows 10 Pro for Workstations includes a feature called SMB Direct, which supports the use of network adapters that have Remote Direct Memory Access (RDMA) capability. Network adapters that have RDMA can function at full speed with very low latency, while using very little CPU. Interesting to see file copy speeds mentioned. "Drag-and-drop" file copy has a known bottleneck that other methods (…

Why would a filesystem have to know about a network interface's ability do do RDMA? Shouldn't the kernel use it when it makes sense and leave the filesystem to be concerned with files?

RDMA can speed up a lot of things besides remote file access.

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Nah you don't need to renew it. You pay $1200 upfront and it comes with a bunch of license keys, each allowing multiple activations, that you get to keep even if you do not renew the subscription. Renewal is only if you want a key for future versions of windows (Windows 11?), which there won't be according to Microsoft. The catch is that the license prevents you from using it as a main/production machine, it's for de…

Yes, see my rather extensive edit. It's only $539, though. The cheaper MSDN tier seems to include LTSB according to the product matrix.

Which tier are you refering to? I thought VS Pro was the cheapest option.

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Microsoft had been testing my patience for a while, but Windows 10 was the straw that broke the camels back. I no longer support or use Windows and am a happier/healthier person for it. Ya'll should try it too! Microsoft is not a good faith actor in the software world, at all. All the "open-source" push they have been doing of late to stem the tide reeks of the 90's... and what frustates me the most is people are so…

You can't just "replace AD servers with Samba4". It doesn't even begin to provide the same usability and feature set.

I love the idea. It's just not viable.

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