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Re: Richard Stallman Explains [video]

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Probably because the process is at best dull and at worst, a massive PITA; either way it has little to no relevance to his actual work. If I had the chance, I'd avoid any kind of software installation/maintainence as well...

Doesn't it speak rather poorly for free software if installing it is a "massive PITA"?

ALL software does this. If it works, I might as well have let someone else do the waiting.

If it doesn't, then It requires a few hours mindlessly running around until you find some stupid flag that was set. Which I might as well leave to somebody else to do.

That this is the state of software is a pretty damn good thing, that most of it has become busywork. But its still busywork and I don't why I'd ever want to do it more than a couple times (once I know the general process)

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I was amazed to see that Stallman doesn't install his OS himself - hasn't for years. He seemed diminished in my eyes after I learnt this.

Stallman reminds me of a king who has everything done by servants and knows only what his courtiers tell him. Being free of menial tasks like installing software leaves him more time to tackle serious issues. But it also insulates him from the problems that real people face.

It's not really something you can observe well from the outside, but in working with Richard on many things, I was surprised early on how much respect he gives to those he trusts, and how appreciative he is of help.

So "servants" is far from how he views volunteers. And after working closely with him for a few years within GNU, I don't feel at all like a servant---there is mutual respect, and we're not afraid to state our opinions or disagree with one-another. Much of the time he makes me feel like I work beside him, not below him. It's quite constructive.

And this is typical with others as well.

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What does this have to do with what he is talking about in the linked video? Does it make him a bad guy or ruin his credibility or something?

Occasionally people in the FLOSS community have been known to crack jokes and 'have fun'. Even tho most of the jokes are not very funny and the fun that is had is rather autistic by most peoples standards I see no reason why we should stop. Many of us have been listening to Stallman for close to 20 years and have been part of free software movement for that long. Having a good chuckle at Comrade Stallman expense is r…

> Many of us have been listening to Stallman for close to 20 years

Some of us for over 30. rms enjoys jokes.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umQL37AC_YM A video where he talks about never installing his own OS.

"A beginner shouldn't be installing operating systems"? If a moderately-intelligent, moderately-literate beginner can't install your operating system, then your operating system (or at least, its user interface) is crap. Edit: Just to be clear, I'm responding to the quote, not calling Linux crap. I run a combination of Linux and Windows machines and VMs and they're both very straightforward to install, a complete beg…

There are hundreds of Linux distributions with install media for usb/dvd install. Installing a distro like Fedora is as easy as setting up windows and has about the same UI quality.

Distros like Slackware or Gentoo give you more complicated setups but they are designed for experienced users.

There are so many places online to get help with a Linux install now. If you stick with the main distros as most do for there first taste of Linux its really simple.

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His programming and social acheivements in my opinion vastly outclass installing an OS by himself, though I wonder why he doesn't do it; I assume he knows how partitioning etc. works. And to be honest, how often do most people need to reinstall their OS? I would be surprised if he has reinstalled more than 3 times in 5 years.

Probably because the process is at best dull and at worst, a massive PITA; either way it has little to no relevance to his actual work. If I had the chance, I'd avoid any kind of software installation/maintainence as well...

RMS ought to try installing one of the easier free OS's listed on https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html such as Trisquel (based on Ubuntu), which I think even he will find is easy to install. You don't need to know anything about partitioning if you don't care about it and don't have anything you need on your harddrive or anything else (just accept all the default options).

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I was amazed to see that Stallman doesn't install his OS himself - hasn't for years. He seemed diminished in my eyes after I learnt this.

His programming and social acheivements in my opinion vastly outclass installing an OS by himself, though I wonder why he doesn't do it; I assume he knows how partitioning etc. works. And to be honest, how often do most people need to reinstall their OS? I would be surprised if he has reinstalled more than 3 times in 5 years.

I'm still struggling to understand, what exactly Stallman's social acheivements are. It's not like he is the reason people care about proprietary software and surveillance. No, the real reasons are these things themselves, because — I won't say "all people", but many people understand the dangers and inconveniences of it pretty damn well. I myself perfectly agree with Stallman on many (if not all) of his convictions, but so what? I still use Android phone and many other nasty things, because it's convenient and actually less harmful than making "normal people" around you too dismiss you as some "conspiracy freak". I hate it, but I use it. Not using Facebook alone is pretty troublesome in my social life.

And GNU project software (with a few important exceptions, of course) now feels more like a legacy, than a salvation. It has it's own statute of limitations, so to say.

So I don't see how complaining without actually making a difference helps someone.

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I was amazed to see that Stallman doesn't install his OS himself - hasn't for years. He seemed diminished in my eyes after I learnt this.

Diminished for not installing an OS? The man who could write an optimizing C compiler from scratch in a few days just so he could make it free?

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Occasionally people in the FLOSS community have been known to crack jokes and 'have fun'. Even tho most of the jokes are not very funny and the fun that is had is rather autistic by most peoples standards I see no reason why we should stop. Many of us have been listening to Stallman for close to 20 years and have been part of free software movement for that long. Having a good chuckle at Comrade Stallman expense is r…

I'm aware of that, but this is just bullying the guy, how would you like it if that was a video of you?

I would blame myself for that time I pulled something off my foot and ate it in front of a room of people and a camera.
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