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Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Post by mortehu »

busterarm wrote: post #256
DigitalJack wrote: post #225

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I mean no offense, but I found amusement in this post. It used to be that people hated cable bundles so much that they would say they would rather pay $10/month a channel for the few they watch rather than the $80/month for a bundle of hundreds of channels with only a few worth watching. Now that we have that, are we living the dream? No, we want it for a tenth of the cost.

Maybe because people have a little bit more pricing data than they used to and know what $10 of programming is worth. Your $80/mo cable bundle is split something like: $12 taxes, $43 ESPN, $9 Viacom and the rest split by everyone else. $10 buys a lot.

Cable channels are also funded by ads, though.

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Post by notatoad »

true_religion wrote: post #196
notatoad wrote: post #134

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Netflix already doesn't have that big of a library, and it's been steadily shrinking. But if it comes down to it, i'm willing to pay for $10/mo to netflix purely for their original content. I'd also pay for HBO Now if they would let me (I'm in canada). I don't think there's any other company putting out enough quality first-party content that i'd be willing to pay a monthly fee for their service. maybe a couple bucks…

In 2004, my cable budget was $160/mo in a bundle. Now it is $100/mo for a half-gigabit internet connection. I'd have to sign up for 6 different services in order to add up to my previous budget. So far... its' not come to that point, but if it does I'll be happy to cut out some services. After all do I really need Netflix? I don't watch if for months at a time, and only keep it out of laziness. I'll happily cut it an…

>I'd have to sign up for 6 different services in order to add up to my previous budget.

that's a good point. but for comparison, in 2004 my cable budget was zero because i was in high school and living with my parents. In college we shared hard drives full of movies around the dorms, and ever since i've lived on my own my tv/movie budget has been some combination of netflix and piracy that added up to less than $10/month. The ship may have sailed on people being willing to spend $60-100 per month on TV.

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Post by JohnJamesRambo »

busterarm wrote: post #304
JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #291

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I'm reading your comment in Buster Bluth's voice and it is great.

Lol, I guess I'm glad you find it amusing? In all honesty though, it keeps her from calling me constantly every day. Netflix is great for my sanity.

Is your username not a reference to his arm?

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Post by seanp2k2 »

heygrady wrote: post #346
aidenn0 wrote: post #123

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If all major studios pull their content from Netflix, then it will not have the large library size anymore. Also Disney is currently in a strong position for this right now. They released ~10 movies in 2016 and had the 4 highest grossing films of 2016. This, of course, assumes that Marvel and Lucasfilm properties are put on the Disney streaming service (I would expect that Touchstone label will not be included in thi…

> The only competition with the streaming service would be piracy. Piracy is the only thing that will lead to a consumer friendly streaming option. If it weren't for music piracy, a service like Spotify might not exist. For video, Bit Torrent was popular for years. Now people are flocking to things like Kodi, which can be installed on a Firestick [3] and, with add-ons, can stream anything for free [1]. In order to fi…

We know what will happen, though: studios will spend $ on content and $ on their streaming service, and $$$ trying to stifle competition and consumer rights. If they had instead spent $$$ on content and $$ on their service, people would pirate much much less, but somehow they don't see that or can't / won't run the real numbers.

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Post by TaylorAlexander »

I was thinking recently of that net neutrality pretend graphic showing different websites available for different fees the way premium cable channels have traditionally been offered. [1]

I realized that with or without net neutrality, content providers will find a way to charge us individually for access to their content. This story seems to add support to that notion.

[1] https://m.imgur.com/5RrWm

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Post by seanp2k2 »

bogomipz wrote: post #164
aidenn0 wrote: post #123

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If all major studios pull their content from Netflix, then it will not have the large library size anymore. Also Disney is currently in a strong position for this right now. They released ~10 movies in 2016 and had the 4 highest grossing films of 2016. This, of course, assumes that Marvel and Lucasfilm properties are put on the Disney streaming service (I would expect that Touchstone label will not be included in thi…

>"If all major studios pull their content from Netflix, then it will not have the large library size anymore." I think think that happened when they parted ways with Starz.

And look at Starz now! (TIL Starz has their own app to pay for and download their content)

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Post by cgriswald »

pfranz wrote: post #261
j_s wrote: post #178

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https://www.justwatch.com/ by HN user endymi0n; Show HN (2015) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9005641 "largest streaming search engine in the world [...] with around 12 million unique visits per month" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14842083 -- http://www.canistream.it/ by former HN user SeyelentEco

Has anyone had luck with canistream.it? I've never once had success with it and tried at least half a dozen times over months. Just now I did a search for "all the presidents men." Top hit was "All The King's Men" but the right movie did show up second. It says "Not available for streaming, rental, or purchase. Click below to set reminders." So I hopped around and did a few quick searches: streaming on Netflix (i thi…

https://gowatchit.com/watch/movies/all-the-presidents-men-44...

Click "Watch the Movie" and it will show you several ways you can watch it (including all you've listed above and more).

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Post by seanp2k2 »

WillPostForFood wrote: post #320
querulous wrote: post #208

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star wars is 2 hours of content a year. maybe you can stretch that to 60 if you push out a bunch of 'star wars universe' content. and you can just pay $15 to see that in a theatre netflix added 600 hours of content in 2016 and will surely dwarf that in 2017 and beyond disney is in a for a rude awakening if they think they can go it alone in this marketplace

Star Wars is already the movies, plus two animated series (Clone Wars and Rebels). You can look at the Marvel strategy to see where it could go, with multiple movies a year plus multiple tv/streaming series (Agents of Shield, Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Legion, Defenders, Gifted, Inhumans, Punisher, Runaways). If all that Marvel content moves to Disney streaming, plus new Star Wars content, plus t…

Where will they get the money to bootstrap such a large production pipeline?

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Post by BatFastard »

komali2 wrote: post #172
fweespeech wrote: post #105

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The big Media companies want it to work like cable because they think their "premium content" will get people to pay more. In reality, they are likely to trigger a backlash that increases piracy instead.

I don't know why all these people behind these decisions don't just look at Gabe Newell and his simple statement - "Piracy is a service problem." Steam is a rampant success. You'd think people would catch on. Have the content, make it easy to access, make it easy to pay, and people will give you money hand over fist.

well said
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