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Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Post by dgfgfdagasdfgfa »

netsharc wrote: post #88
Anatidae wrote: post #30

If every studio thinks I'm going to pay them $10+ a month to stream their content, they are going to be very mistaken. I can't imagine that a lot of people want to spend the collective hundreds of dollars to sign up for all the streaming services. It's almost asking to drive people to torrents. Now, if Disney does something like $30/year or something really affordable - sure. I might do that on a whim. I guess it's a…

I've heard a friend complain about having to subscribe to Amazon Prime, Apple Music and some other service because each had their own "exclusive artist"...

And yet, you can't play apple music on a fire stick, and you can't play amazon music on an apple tv....

It just all sucks for the consumer.

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Post by zapt02 »

electriclove wrote: post #148
zapt02 wrote: post #98

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I agree with this. Most families in the western world would pay upwards of $30 to be able to show Disneys back catalog to their kids. Unlimited nostalgia. But I hope they don't pull a typical Disney and portion out their content by arbitrary restrictions. Families will pay either way regardless though.

Upwords of $30/month? That is way too expensive!

I said western-world families. That amount is chump change to most of them, considering how expensive it is to raise a family. Nostalgia + keeping their kids busy = priceless.

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Post by [deleted] »

kbutler wrote: post #68
fullshark wrote: post #41

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Not as long as people want to watch stories about particular IP.

I don't see how that is qualitatively different from wanting to listen to music from specific artists. The music industry has been able to work with aggregators, movies can, too.

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Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Post by bearcobra »

marssaxman wrote: post #122
codazoda wrote: post #70

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We asked for a la carte TV pricing. I think this is what it looks like. I'll probably pay for a few channels and forget the rest.

How is this "a la carte"? I don't care about channels; I'd be willing to pay a couple bucks to watch some specific movie or TV show, but "you have to sign up for a monthly subscription to some corporation's arbitrary bundle of media offerings in order to get access to the one or two things you actually want to see" is pretty much the opposite of "a la carte TV".

If that's what your looking for, it seems like you can get it from dozens of places like iTunes, Google Play, Amazon Video, etc.

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Post by flashman »

overcast wrote: post #192
j_s wrote: post #178

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https://www.justwatch.com/ by HN user endymi0n; Show HN (2015) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9005641 "largest streaming search engine in the world [...] with around 12 million unique visits per month" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14842083 -- http://www.canistream.it/ by former HN user SeyelentEco

justwatch doesn't do anything but aggregate affiliate links.

That's like saying Google "just" aggregates indexed websites. I use justwatch on a weekly basis to find out whether a movie is on any of the services I use (instead of checking all three of them individually), and browse new releases on each service.

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Post by samsolomon »

xupybd wrote: post #179
fweespeech wrote: post #105

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The big Media companies want it to work like cable because they think their "premium content" will get people to pay more. In reality, they are likely to trigger a backlash that increases piracy instead.

Good point komali2. My steam library is full of games I'll never play, never would have bothered to pirate. Why? because steam sales. I'm sure the same could be achieved for Hollywood. Not only could they make sure people are paying for the content they watch, they could have saps like me paying for content they never watch.

I view many of these streaming services as one-time purchases.

I'll look to see if something I want to watch is on Netflix. If I find something looks interesting, great! I'll sign up for one month of the service and then cancel it immediately.

I also do this for football season. I signed up for Sling TV + Red Zone and paid for a few months. When football season was over, I canceled it.

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Post by querulous »

bredren wrote: post #188
aidenn0 wrote: post #123

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If all major studios pull their content from Netflix, then it will not have the large library size anymore. Also Disney is currently in a strong position for this right now. They released ~10 movies in 2016 and had the 4 highest grossing films of 2016. This, of course, assumes that Marvel and Lucasfilm properties are put on the Disney streaming service (I would expect that Touchstone label will not be included in thi…

Ya, this isn't really about Disney content. It is whether you want to be able to stream Star Wars, and get access to exclusive Star Wars content. Marvel too. But Star Wars.

star wars is 2 hours of content a year. maybe you can stretch that to 60 if you push out a bunch of 'star wars universe' content. and you can just pay $15 to see that in a theatre

netflix added 600 hours of content in 2016 and will surely dwarf that in 2017 and beyond

disney is in a for a rude awakening if they think they can go it alone in this marketplace

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Post by spiderfarmer »

With this, Disney is adding incovenience and introducing extra costs at the same time. Not very attractive for most people.

It will also be hard for them to create the ecosystem Netflix has (integrated in lots of TV's and other hardware, dedicated remote buttons and support in a lot of countries). The people outside the US don't care for FOX or ESPN. Maybe if FOX acquired the football (soccer) rights in all countries where Netflix is active and added that to the package or something, that would make it a bit more attractive.

But even then. I don't see this ending well.

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Post by NegatioN »

jtbayly wrote: post #161
reitanqild wrote: post #56

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It is still more than they would get from many of us any other way. Before Spotify I'll buy less than a cd every second or third month maybe. Now I'd probably just stop watching movies. Others will start pirating again.

Spotify also doesn't pay the artists enough for most of them to survive. Studios know this. They know that $10/month isn't enough to support the creation of all the original content that has been supported in the past by $100/month.

I have a hunch that studios will find a way to pocket about the same amount of money that Spotify already does. Just based on the reports of how they treat non-superstar artists already with hollywood acounting [0].

They want more money for the studio to survive, not artists. Artists are probably "a dime a dozen", and possible to manufacture from a studios perspective.

[0]: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100712/23482610186.shtml

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