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Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Post by pfranz »

j_s wrote: post #178
px1999 wrote: post #86

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Long term, we'll probably wind up with a couple of major marketplaces that provide a UI that ties together content bundles that you've purchased from different distributors (who will actually serve up their catalogs). It's a bit depressing how similar that sounds to how cable networks work. Or platform specific app stores.

https://www.justwatch.com/ by HN user endymi0n; Show HN (2015) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9005641 "largest streaming search engine in the world [...] with around 12 million unique visits per month" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14842083 -- http://www.canistream.it/ by former HN user SeyelentEco

Has anyone had luck with canistream.it? I've never once had success with it and tried at least half a dozen times over months.

Just now I did a search for "all the presidents men." Top hit was "All The King's Men" but the right movie did show up second. It says "Not available for streaming, rental, or purchase. Click below to set reminders."

So I hopped around and did a few quick searches:

streaming on Netflix (i think) https://www.netflix.com/watch/243547

streaming on amazon (with Cinemax) http://a.co/605SHmD

for rent or sale on iTunes https://itunes.apple.com/us/movie/all-the-presidents-men/id5...

for rent or sale on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAGNFnI7mZ4

The page also says it's not for sale on DVD or Blu-Ray (showing an Amazon logo): http://a.co/aoa6bG8

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Post by aidenn0 »

bredren wrote: post #236
querulous wrote: post #208

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star wars is 2 hours of content a year. maybe you can stretch that to 60 if you push out a bunch of 'star wars universe' content. and you can just pay $15 to see that in a theatre netflix added 600 hours of content in 2016 and will surely dwarf that in 2017 and beyond disney is in a for a rude awakening if they think they can go it alone in this marketplace

Netflix may have added 600 hours but have you plumbed what Netflix adds? Most of the content is crap. Content is not a numbers game it is a hits game. "Star Wars is worth more than harry potter and james bond combined."[1] Just the first 6 episodes of Star Wars is 17 hours of footage. This does not include special features, cartoons and other offshoots in this franchise. Access to this on a whim, along with immediate…

Content is hits+depth. You do the 30 day trial to watch star wars, then stay on because you find other stuff you like. Unless you're going to watch a different star wars movie every week[1], you can just rent or buy the star wars movies for cheap.

1: By 2019 there should be about a dozen feature-length star wars movies, counting the 3 2-hour television specials, so you're right that just star wars movies is not that great.

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Post by Mindwipe »

mschuster91 wrote: post #89

Time to dig out that torrent downloader on my NAS, it seems. Why can't the movie industry learn from the success of Spotify? No one is pirating music any more because Spotify has everything and their dog without geo restriction (at least as far as I am aware), and those who want to buy music can buy unprotected stuff from Apple Music... only the movie industry is bent on total control and profit extraction.

...Learn from the success of a business that has literally never made a profit in it's entire history?

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Post by dpark »

daigoba66 wrote: post #237
nxsynonym wrote: post #69

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Agreed. I only pay for netflix and HBO (and amazon, but that's a bonus for paying for prime). HBO doesn't feel like "extra" because it's always been an optional add-on that costs more. First all the "major" studios will split and start charing $10/month. Then adds will start creeping back in. Before you know it everyone will be paying for an ad-hoc cable subscription. I think a better option would be to do what Amazo…

> HBO doesn't feel like "extra" because it's always been an optional add-on that costs more. Disney Channel used to be a premium, ad-free channel.

And they didn't have enough subscribers to justify that model. I wonder what they think has changed.

Maybe on demand Disney movies are valuable enough to enough parents to justify this?

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Post by TallGuyShort »

nxsynonym wrote: post #69
Anatidae wrote: post #30

If every studio thinks I'm going to pay them $10+ a month to stream their content, they are going to be very mistaken. I can't imagine that a lot of people want to spend the collective hundreds of dollars to sign up for all the streaming services. It's almost asking to drive people to torrents. Now, if Disney does something like $30/year or something really affordable - sure. I might do that on a whim. I guess it's a…

Agreed. I only pay for netflix and HBO (and amazon, but that's a bonus for paying for prime). HBO doesn't feel like "extra" because it's always been an optional add-on that costs more. First all the "major" studios will split and start charing $10/month. Then adds will start creeping back in. Before you know it everyone will be paying for an ad-hoc cable subscription. I think a better option would be to do what Amazo…

>> Before you know it everyone will be paying for an ad-hoc cable subscription.

Still better than a cable subscription. That's my biggest beef. I want 2 channels and I can't get them for less than $150 a month. So they get nothing and neither do I.

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Post by ghostbrainalpha »

hkmurakami wrote: post #229
joezydeco wrote: post #107

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Those are all movies. Streaming services get traction from episodic series and live shows. If Disney streams only feature film content, it will go nowhere. No parent will pay $10-$20 month to access the same 50 to 100 films over and over.

Disney has a sprawling cable content network.

Exactly. That's why they HAD to make this move.

The Disney channel is getting hurt badly by families cutting the cord. Disney streaming will be just as much about "The Mickey Mouse Club" as it is about big budget blockbusters.

I have a 2 year old. I will be wherever the Disney content is, and they could charge me basically whatever price they want.

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Post by Mindwipe »

revelation wrote: post #13

Wow it's 2017 and they still haven't understood this. Nobody will pay for a Disney service, a HBO service, a Netflix Originals service, an Amazon Originals service, .. Not because people can't afford it, Americans happily paid $120 for cable, but simply because the balkanization throws convenience out of the window and nobody wants to deal with that .

Disney already did this in other territories, such as the UK.

People did deal with it. Which is why they're expanding it.

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Post by pfranz »

samsolomon wrote: post #207
xupybd wrote: post #179

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Good point komali2. My steam library is full of games I'll never play, never would have bothered to pirate. Why? because steam sales. I'm sure the same could be achieved for Hollywood. Not only could they make sure people are paying for the content they watch, they could have saps like me paying for content they never watch.

I view many of these streaming services as one-time purchases. I'll look to see if something I want to watch is on Netflix. If I find something looks interesting, great! I'll sign up for one month of the service and then cancel it immediately. I also do this for football season. I signed up for Sling TV + Red Zone and paid for a few months. When football season was over, I canceled it.

I do the same, but I think that's harder with a family. Right now my wife and I don't have time to watch much, so we usually pick a single show together and watch it start to finish, but if we both had our own watching habits or kids I don't know what we'd do. I dont imagine anyone else would have the patience to start/stop service no matter how easy it is (I can't even get them to turn off the lights when they leave the room).

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Post by iammiles »

Anatidae wrote: post #30

If every studio thinks I'm going to pay them $10+ a month to stream their content, they are going to be very mistaken. I can't imagine that a lot of people want to spend the collective hundreds of dollars to sign up for all the streaming services. It's almost asking to drive people to torrents. Now, if Disney does something like $30/year or something really affordable - sure. I might do that on a whim. I guess it's a…

I think Netflix have been very smart for producing their own original content for the past few years. While losing Disney and maybe others is a blow, it doesn't leave a void in their library for quality content.
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