For all you non-Nobel-Price holders that aren't uneducated and want to live somewhere else: Germany welcomes you.
Actually, having a bachelor's degree in the STEM field almost automatically gets you a visa for "searching work" for 6-12 months. If in that time you find a job that pays at least ca. 40.000 Euro, you get the "BlueCard" which leads to permanent residency after 2-4 years (depending on your German skills). If you are well qualified, but not in the STEM fields, about 60.000€ yearly salary paves the way. There is no point system, there is no maximum number of BlueCards, you don't have to be the best of the best (just "regular" well educated people) and you get your shot. We are just going through the process with a family member of my wife and it is surprisingly painless compared to most other German bureaucracy. In contrast to the USA, Germany is actively searching for more talent abroad and has reasonable acceptance criteria (never thought I would say this about my country...).
How to earn 'points' under Trump immigration plan?
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#42How many points under the new system are awarded for: 1) being tired 2) being poor and 3) yearning to be free?
This administration is afraid of refugees too, so probably negative.
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#43(Not an economist. Current h1b visa holder about to leave the US to grow my company in India.) A country whose indigenous population growth is stagnating, whose indigenous population does currently not pick up all available jobs, whose economy is 6x as big as Canada and Australia combined is choosing to turn away immigrants. From a purely numerical standpoint, an 18T dollar economy built by 330M individuals will star…
> ...whose indigenous population does currently not pick up all available jobs
Aren't U.S. companies responsible for retraining workers to meet their needs? Are U.S. companies entitled to business models that aren't supported by U.S. demographics?
The idea that employers should just import workers doesn't help underemployed citizens. And it doesn't improve wages of employed citizens.
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#44> Priority is given to prime working ages. Isn't this basically ageism, the kind that is outlawed federally? Perhaps the concern is about the economics of importing people who are harder to provide insurance or pensions for. But for that I could see a requirement for a certain level of insurance. Or a disqualification from entitlement programs for a while. To go straight to age ranking is disappointing.
Hiring laws do tend to outlaw discrimination based on age except in a few circumstances - there are laws specifying the minimum age to be able to sell alcohol, and there's an age at which commercial pilots have to stop flying.
If congress didn't specifically include a provision to note that age discrimination laws didn't apply to this, it would likely end up being challenged in court, but I certainly couldn't say what the outcome would be.
Other countries do this as well - it's not right, but the people developing this policy don't have an original bone in their body, so of course they're going to copy what other countries already have!
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#45This seems pretty similar to Australia’s points system. http://www.border.gov.au/visas/supporting/Pages/190/points-t...
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#46(Not an economist. Current h1b visa holder about to leave the US to grow my company in India.) A country whose indigenous population growth is stagnating, whose indigenous population does currently not pick up all available jobs, whose economy is 6x as big as Canada and Australia combined is choosing to turn away immigrants. From a purely numerical standpoint, an 18T dollar economy built by 330M individuals will star…
How about we spend the same hundreds of millions or billions incentivizing those smart people to have kids rather than importing uneducated people because they breed like rabbits? Bringing in millions of people who will most likely be reliant on government benefits while punishing successful people isn't a winning strategy. Only 13% of Germany's refugees have found work, not really helping GDP. http://www.reuters.com…
I would like the down-voters to explain why this is getting down voted. He is exactly right.
Have none of you seen what's happening in Sweden, Germany and especially France?
In France there have been many riots. All by immigrants who have low education, unskilled work and living off government welfare.
This problem has been there since 20 years and has just bred another generation. Give it another 20 years and with the birth-rate as it is for immigrants, it will just get worse.
There is a huge problem coming. With all these low skilled immigrants having their jobs being automated. What is the country to do with them? Oh thats right, more welfare.
Well guess who is paying that. So dear "javascript" developer, you want more TAX? Because you are going to pay for it.
That's why I'll never live in these countries. We are looking at 90% tax rate for the middle class. It happened in France for the high earners.
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#47I am curious - does anyone here from the us actually think this is an improvement compared to the existing h1b system?
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#48(Not an economist. Current h1b visa holder about to leave the US to grow my company in India.) A country whose indigenous population growth is stagnating, whose indigenous population does currently not pick up all available jobs, whose economy is 6x as big as Canada and Australia combined is choosing to turn away immigrants. From a purely numerical standpoint, an 18T dollar economy built by 330M individuals will star…
America isn't turning away Nobel Prize winners. This system is open to those who are educated and/or skilled. It's difficult for those who aren't. Many countries have similar immigration standards. It's only when America does it that people get angry. It's quite difficult for skilled workers to get visas to the EU. Far harder than it is for Europeans to move to America.
Nobel prize winners on down, the more educated you are, the less likely you are to have children. The fewer children you have, the less likely it is that your population levels will stay stable and not decline. A declining population will lead to stressed in the the economy because there will be fewer buyers, fewer producers, fewer young people and so on.
I for one, am not angry that America is debating this policy. They are entitled to it. I'm adding my voice to the debate with points which favor a liberal, come-one-come-all immigration policy.
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#49(Not an economist. Current h1b visa holder about to leave the US to grow my company in India.) A country whose indigenous population growth is stagnating, whose indigenous population does currently not pick up all available jobs, whose economy is 6x as big as Canada and Australia combined is choosing to turn away immigrants. From a purely numerical standpoint, an 18T dollar economy built by 330M individuals will star…
> ...whose indigenous population does currently not pick up all available jobs Aren't U.S. companies responsible for retraining workers to meet their needs? Are U.S. companies entitled to business models that aren't supported by U.S. demographics? The idea that employers should just import workers doesn't help underemployed citizens. And it doesn't improve wages of employed citizens.
Fruit picking (which the indigenous population doesn't want to do) is one such business model. Nothing is more nationalistic than living off the land of that nation and that is something native born Americans don't want to do.
You can't train away reluctance.
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#50I wonder if the Job Offer criterion is applicable to a startup co-founder who is employed as an executive in the company they co-found.
If not then this would shut out the vast majority of non-PhD startup founders who do not already have a green card.