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Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con

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Re: Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con

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FYI, if you've committed any form of cybercrime in the previous 3 years (edit: the statute of limitations is 5 years for most federal computer crimes, as pointed out below), you should avoid such conferences in the US for exactly this reason. You probably aren't as smart as you think, and there may be a sealed arrest warrant for you. The FBI waits for these kinds of conferences to do exactly what they did here. Anoth…

It's actually 5 years and potentially more depending on the specifics. Relevant information begins on the bottom of page 126/213 or 120 using the numbers printed on the pdf. https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/criminal-ccips/l...

I stand corrected. It is three years for many federal crimes, but since the CFAA has no specific statute of limitations, you are correct that crimes prosecuted under it use the default number, which is 5 years. On a side note, if you are an international person visiting the US, you do not want to be arrested for a federal crime in Las Vegas...if you think you may be arrested, visit somewhere else. There is no automatic right to bail in the federal system, and the District Court in Las Vegas is notorious for ruling that most non-US defendants are flight risks. That means, at a minimum, you will go through a month-long transfer process (that goes through Oklahoma, regardless of your destination) to get to wherever your federal warrant was actually issued before you are likely to be granted bail.

Re: Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con

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Maybe this is the reason he did not appreciate people revealing his identity online (basically DOXing him for fun, some journalist did it if I recall correctly). It really sucks when somebody that is trying to do well (stopping the WannaCry Ransomware as he did) is detained, even though we don't know more details at this points, this hits him rather personally and probably not for the good, I am very sorry for him and I hope he gets out soon and that all is well.

Re: Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con

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It's actually 5 years and potentially more depending on the specifics. Relevant information begins on the bottom of page 126/213 or 120 using the numbers printed on the pdf. https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/criminal-ccips/l...

I stand corrected. It is three years for many federal crimes, but since the CFAA has no specific statute of limitations, you are correct that crimes prosecuted under it use the default number, which is 5 years. On a side note, if you are an international person visiting the US, you do not want to be arrested for a federal crime in Las Vegas...if you think you may be arrested, visit somewhere else. There is no automat…

This is good advice, but if you think you may be arrested, you should not visit at all.

Re: Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con

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post #183

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I stand corrected. It is three years for many federal crimes, but since the CFAA has no specific statute of limitations, you are correct that crimes prosecuted under it use the default number, which is 5 years. On a side note, if you are an international person visiting the US, you do not want to be arrested for a federal crime in Las Vegas...if you think you may be arrested, visit somewhere else. There is no automat…

This is good advice, but if you think you may be arrested, you should not visit at all.

Probably even better advice :) .

Re: Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con

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Because Las Vegas is in the US. DC/BH are just an excuse for security people to get a company paid trip.

Having just attended DEF CON, I can say that I didn't get that vibe at all. The people who were there were very serious about the whole point of it all. I got a lot of value out of it as well.

Haha, the ones that actually attended sessions are serious. The other guys just visit casinos and the pool and their boss pays for the trip.

Re: Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con

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I'm curious what charges are being brought against him. For all we know, this detention is completely unrelated to WannaCry. We shall see.

> For all we know, this detention is completely unrelated to WannaCry. No everyone has already determined 'wow he did a good deed' and 'us law enforcement bad'. The fact is he is linked to this event and a person of interest who they want to get more info from. As such it makes total sense they would detain him for some questioning searches and so on. If you are someone who stops a crime you will also get questioned…

I understand your point of view, but I don't share it. First, asking questions doesn't require to detain people. Second, that person is not an American citizen. Unless he committed crimes on the American soil, which might be the case, handling foreign visitors like that is puzzling to say the least.

Re: Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con

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Having just attended DEF CON, I can say that I didn't get that vibe at all. The people who were there were very serious about the whole point of it all. I got a lot of value out of it as well.

It looks like Berlin could be a better place for such type of event.

The Chaos Communication Congress is already held annually in Germany, and is well-attended. There is absolutely an appetite for annual hacker/security conferences in the United States (and indeed we already have dozens that are held annually, of all sizes: DEF CON, BlackHat, B-Sides, SchmooCon, etc).

Re: Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con

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post #185

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Having just attended DEF CON, I can say that I didn't get that vibe at all. The people who were there were very serious about the whole point of it all. I got a lot of value out of it as well.

Haha, the ones that actually attended sessions are serious. The other guys just visit casinos and the pool and their boss pays for the trip.

The sessions were all pretty much full. There were many, many people who were taking it seriously. I can't speak to how many people just goofed around the whole trip, as I wouldn't've seen them, but it seemed to be a minority.

Re: Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con

#189

FYI, if you've committed any form of cybercrime in the previous 3 years (edit: the statute of limitations is 5 years for most federal computer crimes, as pointed out below), you should avoid such conferences in the US for exactly this reason. You probably aren't as smart as you think, and there may be a sealed arrest warrant for you. The FBI waits for these kinds of conferences to do exactly what they did here. Anoth…

Shouldn't we all avoid US conferences?

Half the people have some day done something which in a generic way is "against US interests" (from a false name on Facebook to competing against a US corp to starting a petition or a secure app). I personally don't go to US conferences or visit US customers, simply because of TSA (same for Japan and China; Europe has a better track record). If you have a choice, it's not really giving the world a service to choose the USA land to organize a conf, as it will exclude many, many people.

Re: Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con

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post #94

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> For all we know, this detention is completely unrelated to WannaCry. No everyone has already determined 'wow he did a good deed' and 'us law enforcement bad'. The fact is he is linked to this event and a person of interest who they want to get more info from. As such it makes total sense they would detain him for some questioning searches and so on. If you are someone who stops a crime you will also get questioned…

Everyone's determined 'us law enforcement bad' because it doesn't matter what crime he may or may not have committed. He was arrested in the US, which means he may be tortured or murdered, and if he's sentenced he almost certainly will be tortured through means such as prisoner assaults, permanent solitary confinement or abuse, or god knows what else. And heaven forbid he's sent to a military prison. He will never co…

If you believe the USA is so terrible then push for sanctions against them. Its better than wringing your hands anytime one of our longtime allies decides to arrest a alleged criminal.
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