It's OT but how many people actually use RHEL? Or CentOS (more likely). I'm not a fan of systemd, but have really loathed CentOS/RHEL compared to Debian/* for years.
Amazon Linux is CentOS 6.something with new kernels and security fixes for the associated packages.
Btrfs has been deprecated in RHEL
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Re: Btrfs has been deprecated in RHEL
#52Offtopic, but if anybody from RedHat and especially Mozilla read this, go to that page with an Android phone, possibly with a small screen: To RedHat: do something for that menu at the left. It stays in the way when scrolling and zooming. The X to close it is not immediately visible on a small screen. Expected behavior: the menu scrolls away with the page and doesn't stay fixed in the way of the reader. To Mozilla: o…
It's utterly terribly designed to be an open source information page.
Re: Btrfs has been deprecated in RHEL
#53Luckily this is only Redhat, not Btrfs itself.
Re: Btrfs has been deprecated in RHEL
#54I am as happy as anyone that XFS is finally getting the position of honor it deserves on enterprise Linux (something like 15 years later than it should have, grumble grumble) but it doesn't really take the place of what btrfs was trying to do. Only ZFS is in a position to do that. I wonder if there are any plans for supporting the native port on RHEL.
Perhaps Redhat could help to develop snapshots on XFS. It's not the only feature XFS is missing, but it's a start.
Re: Btrfs has been deprecated in RHEL
#55Wow, I thought their long term plan was to switch to Btrfs. Now it is deprecated? What happened there?
I think you might be confusing with SuSE? Generally though sadly btrfs just isn't getting the man hours from any commercial sponsor it seems :(
Re: Btrfs has been deprecated in RHEL
#56Sounds to me that Btrfs is done for long-term. So now what?
"Done for the long-term" is a major overstatement IMO.
Re: Btrfs has been deprecated in RHEL
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Happy to see his Patreon is looking "healthier". I mean $1500/m isn't really that much but I'm sure last I looked it was much lower. In other news.. consider supporting the people that support you! Personally, I spent over $100/month on Patreon. Most of those are creators rather than open source people but there are a couple of open source ones such as Ondřej Surý who works on PHP packaging in Debian/Ubuntu
It's $1050, not $1500. I'm interested in two projects on Patreon (bcachefs and Matrix) and both projects are not getting nearly enough to be self-funded, so this raises the question if this model even works for Open Source. So far any advanced technology seems to be funded by some big corporation and it's not very good. But, I guess, users just don't care about good inner workings, they care about things they persona…
I donated a lot to git-annex because he did it right, showing everywhere that you could sponsor the development.
Re: Btrfs has been deprecated in RHEL
#58I am as happy as anyone that XFS is finally getting the position of honor it deserves on enterprise Linux (something like 15 years later than it should have, grumble grumble) but it doesn't really take the place of what btrfs was trying to do. Only ZFS is in a position to do that. I wonder if there are any plans for supporting the native port on RHEL.
Redhat hasn't been on the best of terms with Oracle, so I suspect that they want to stay clear of ZFS. It does however leave Redhat without a more modern feature rich filesystem. Perhaps Redhat could help to develop snapshots on XFS. It's not the only feature XFS is missing, but it's a start.
Upstream has been working on adding more btrfs-like features to XFS, but I believe that RHEL encourages using devicemapper snapshots (which you then format with XFS).
Re: Btrfs has been deprecated in RHEL
#59I think this is a political move disguised as technical move oracle pays the developers of btrfs [0] redhat hates the guts of oracle, since oracle released oracle linux, which is a clone of redhat enterprise (based on centos) so, redhat wants to cripple btrfs and hurt oracle. However, btrfs is my favorite FS, been using it on my home computer and backup drives for at least 6 years, before it was included in the kerne…
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Re: Btrfs has been deprecated in RHEL
#60I have used Btrfs in production and I would say it's great. It's super easy to just add an extra EBS volume and attach to a Btrfs volume and now you have more disk space. Performance is good enough for me as well, I used it as storage for InfluxDB and Docker. Luckily this is only Redhat, not Btrfs itself.