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Impossible Foods has raised $75M for its plant-based burgers

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Re: Impossible Foods has raised $75M for its plant-based burgers

#81

What is it with first-world vegans/vegetarians wanting to eat these extremely processed imitation meat frozen foods? There is an entire tradition of vegetarian cuisine around the world from Rasta Ital, to Hindu Sattvic, Afghani, and Thai which you could learn with just a tiny bit of effort.

I think the goal is more to transition omnivores away from meat. There is a consensus that the meat industry in unsustainable as is. But, there is also a strong belief that trying to convince the world they don't want meat via rational arguments is futile. Thus, we need work-arounds via either plants that mimic meat or changing the meat industry over to vat-brewed meat.

> trying to convince the world they don't want meat via rational arguments is futile

Of course it is, because it should be pretty obvious that they do want meat. If they didn't want meat you wouldn't be having the argument in the first place, right?

I've never tried a real honest to god direct replacement for meat that I actually was fooled -- even for a moment -- into thinking might actually be meat. I've had some delicious vegetarian dishes, I've had some delicious vegan dishes, but those things definitely just aren't the same experience as eating meat. Tofurkey just don't cut it.

Which isn't to say that I'm not open to the idea of having a 1:1 lab-made replacement for meat that is indistinguishable from the real thing. I most definitely am. If you could provide me with lab-meat at even just a small premium I'd probably go vegetarian where that option was available.

But boy do I love me some meat-or-indistinguishable-from-meat products in my meals.

Re: Impossible Foods has raised $75M for its plant-based burgers

#82

I'm paleo, and wanted to try it to see how it tastes. Closer than I expected to a real burger. Not great, but this would be an excellent replacement for factory farmed animals. Not as tasty, or as good for the environment as pasture raised cows.

Any time you see "good for the environment" and "cows" in the same sentence, stop reading.

Re: Impossible Foods has raised $75M for its plant-based burgers

#83
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I'm happy to see that fat and protein are the main ingredients. http://impossiblefoods.com/images/faq/nutrition-facts.png A lot of veggie imitation meats are low on fat and protein and extremely high on processed carbs.

Wow, do nutrition labels in USA generally not show figures per 100g?

We should consider ourselves lucky they used grams at all and not their fancy units.

Re: Impossible Foods has raised $75M for its plant-based burgers

#84

I tried a Beyond Burger, which I believe is the main other horse in this "veggie burger" race and I was pretty impressed. It doesn't have the "plant blood" that seems to be Impossible's secret sauce, but on a bun, with ketchup, lettuce and tomato I thought it was pretty great. Great enough that I'd order it instead of a normal burger if it was widely available.

how did the cost compare to meat?

Re: Impossible Foods has raised $75M for its plant-based burgers

#85

What is it with first-world vegans/vegetarians wanting to eat these extremely processed imitation meat frozen foods? There is an entire tradition of vegetarian cuisine around the world from Rasta Ital, to Hindu Sattvic, Afghani, and Thai which you could learn with just a tiny bit of effort.

Is this rhetorical or are you actually wondering why someone would want meatless substitutes for foods that they (used to) enjoy?

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Re: Impossible Foods has raised $75M for its plant-based burgers

#86

What is it with first-world vegans/vegetarians wanting to eat these extremely processed imitation meat frozen foods? There is an entire tradition of vegetarian cuisine around the world from Rasta Ital, to Hindu Sattvic, Afghani, and Thai which you could learn with just a tiny bit of effort.

I love meat. Especially fried chicken. I was raised on it. But I only eat in in the condition someone else is throwing away scraps. Its a moral thing. Cant I be vegetarian for moral choices without acting like I'm above the taste of meat?

My wife is coming around too and you know what? Foods like this are the gateway drug for those of us born and raised on meat to change our ways (should you want to... if you want to continue to eat meat that is your path in life to take!)

Re: Impossible Foods has raised $75M for its plant-based burgers

#87

What is it with first-world vegans/vegetarians wanting to eat these extremely processed imitation meat frozen foods? There is an entire tradition of vegetarian cuisine around the world from Rasta Ital, to Hindu Sattvic, Afghani, and Thai which you could learn with just a tiny bit of effort.

I think the goal is more to transition omnivores away from meat. There is a consensus that the meat industry in unsustainable as is. But, there is also a strong belief that trying to convince the world they don't want meat via rational arguments is futile. Thus, we need work-arounds via either plants that mimic meat or changing the meat industry over to vat-brewed meat.

An important component of the pitch to omnivores is price. If the price is low enough, it becomes an easier sell.

But very often the prices on these vegetarian meat substitute products is the same or higher than the comparable meat product. I think that's because the food system, and various subsidies to "big meat", make meat unnaturally cheap.

Re: Impossible Foods has raised $75M for its plant-based burgers

#89
I'm a fan and as a 3-time food+tech entrepreneur, imho they're going to be very successful.

I'm an omnivore, love burgers. I also love veg burgers, but they're not burgers -- they're something else, the way salmon burgers and fried chicken sandos are great but don't count when you want a "beef burger."

The Impossible Burger was the first burger I tried (Jardiniere in SF) that my brain said, "yes, this is a burger". In fact, it was close enough that... it was boring. I could eat it every day and if beef burgers were taken away from me, I wouldn't notice or reminisce.

The next step is to make the raw IB meat available in grocery, so I can experiment myself - load up the umami, mix in spices, stuff it with cheese, try it with different levels of done-ness, etc.

Re: Impossible Foods has raised $75M for its plant-based burgers

#90
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried the Impossible Meats burger - it was nowhere near as tasty as a beef burger. I think it could be improved drastically by just adding a little MSG tho.

Most burgers are improved with MSG, it is a miracle salt.

And msg is generally considered safe these days?
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