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Impossible Burgers contain heme iron, which is disastrous to the body. https://nutritionfacts.org/video/the-safety-of-heme-vs-non-h...
Tofu/soy burgers have been around for >20 years already. How is this significantly different? [Edit: way to be downvoted instantly for asking a serious critical question. Remember when hn prided itself on a higher level of discussion than reddit?]
Here is the Impossible Foods FAQ: https://www.impossiblefoods.com/faq/
Tofu/soy burgers have been around for >20 years already. How is this significantly different? [Edit: way to be downvoted instantly for asking a serious critical question. Remember when hn prided itself on a higher level of discussion than reddit?]
To give you some idea of what's different: http://youtu.be/ebNeUihciDI
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Actually only 6 days ago. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14855796
No explicit mention of soy, plus "The analysis did not explore reasons for the decline". Furthermore, it's said that plant-derived oestrogen does not act in the same way as human-derived oestrogen. I'll find a link... EDIT: Link... http://www.pcrm.org/health/cancer-resources/ask/ask-the-expe... "Phytoestrogens, being weak estrogens, are like small, private planes with few passengers and no cargo, yet they still occup…
Soy protein does blunt testosterone production. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/10/131010091557.h...
Soy's effects are well known, at least among (some) doctors.
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Soy contains phytoestrogens, which are endocrine disruptors. Soy is incredibly estrogenic (http://igrow.org/livestock/beef/hormones-in-beef-myth-vs.-fa... Table 1). See the following research if you're interested.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21175082
> Phytoestrogens, natural plant compounds abundantly found in soy and soy products, behave as weak estrogen mimics or as antiestrogens. They are considered to be EDCs [endocrine disrupting compounds], and have some beneficial effects on health, including reducing the risk of breast cancer and improving metabolic parameters. However, the supporting evidence that consumption of phytoestrogens is beneficial is indirect and inconsistent. Lifetime exposure to estrogenic substances, especially during critical periods of development, has been associated with formation of malignancies and several anomalies of the reproductive systems.
And, the most relevant one:
https://academic.oup.com/humrep/article/23/11/2584/2913898/S...
"These data suggest that higher intake of soy foods and soy isoflavones is associated with lower sperm concentration."
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Their "soy leghemoglobin" doesn't come from soy though. It comes from GMO Algae. Presumably they could reprogram that algae to produce a different hemoglobin-like molecule.
Check the ingredients list: >Full Ingredient List: >Water, Textured Wheat Protein, Coconut Oil, Potato Protein, Natural Flavors, 2% or less of: Leghemoglobin (soy), Yeast Extract, Salt, Soy Protein Isolate, Konjac Gum, Xanthan Gum, Thiamin (Vitamin B1), Zinc, Niacin, Vitamin B6, Riboflavin (Vitamin B2), Vitamin B12. >Contains: >Soy, Wheat This contains soy. My comment stands.
>But high-temperature processing has the unfortunate side effect of so denaturing the other proteins in soy that they are rendered largely ineffective.23 That's why animals on soy feed need lysine supplements for normal growth.
>Nitrites, which are potent carcinogens, are formed during spray-drying, and a toxin called lysinoalanine is formed during alkaline processing.24 Numerous artificial flavorings, particularly MSG, are added to soy protein isolate and textured vegetable protein products to mask their strong "beany" taste and to impart the flavor of meat.25
>In feeding experiments, the use of SPI increased requirements for vitamins E, K, D, and B12 and created deficiency symptoms of calcium, magnesium, manganese, molybdenum, copper, iron, and zinc.26 Phytic acid remaining in these soy products greatly inhibits zinc and iron absorption; test animals fed SPI develop enlarged organs, particularly the pancreas and thyroid gland, and increased deposition of fatty acids in the liver.27
http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/avoid_soy.htm
I shouldn't even have to post about "Textured Wheat Protein" but it's essentially another denatured protein, one that is completely doused in glyphosate right before harvest..
Check out the chart on page two...
http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/ITX_2013_06_04_Seneff.pdf
These "vegan" foods are nowhere near healthy.
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Check the ingredients list: >Full Ingredient List: >Water, Textured Wheat Protein, Coconut Oil, Potato Protein, Natural Flavors, 2% or less of: Leghemoglobin (soy), Yeast Extract, Salt, Soy Protein Isolate, Konjac Gum, Xanthan Gum, Thiamin (Vitamin B1), Zinc, Niacin, Vitamin B6, Riboflavin (Vitamin B2), Vitamin B12. >Contains: >Soy, Wheat This contains soy. My comment stands.
Those labels are because the compounds could trigger a soy allergy, because, y'know, they're chemically identical. Notice that all the "soy" falls in the "2% or less of" bucket. This is not the same as a soy burger. Have you eaten one?
> Those labels are because the compounds could trigger a soy allergy
...because it contains soy, which has negative effects on fertility. That was my whole point. So why change the subject?
Impossible Burgers contain heme iron, which is disastrous to the body. https://nutritionfacts.org/video/the-safety-of-heme-vs-non-h...
What is it with first-world vegans/vegetarians wanting to eat these extremely processed imitation meat frozen foods? There is an entire tradition of vegetarian cuisine around the world from Rasta Ital, to Hindu Sattvic, Afghani, and Thai which you could learn with just a tiny bit of effort.