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Re: Krita Foundation in Trouble

#191
I freaking hate tax. Especially those on the left yelling to tax the "rich" (very few are actually rich nowadays). This is the end result. Innocent companies go out of business (and then there is nothing to tax).

Re: Krita Foundation in Trouble

#192
post #191

I freaking hate tax. Especially those on the left yelling to tax the "rich" (very few are actually rich nowadays). This is the end result. Innocent companies go out of business (and then there is nothing to tax).

Taxation is theft by definition, but getting rid of it altogether is a completely unrealistic endeavor. All we can hope for is reducing tax rates and educating people about "taxing the rich" (label that is usually used to advocate raising taxes on capital gains).

Re: Krita Foundation in Trouble

#193
post #11

Just a quick reminder, if everyone here donates just 3-5$, the expenses will be paid in no time :) Krita is a great software, and even though I'm not an artist it's worth supporting.

Thanks for pointing that out. I usually don't donate but did so this time.

Is there a list of open source software that is going through similar hardships that need donations?

Re: Krita Foundation in Trouble

#194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's very slow... The hackernews effect, I'm afraid. Internationally, paypal is easiest: just use foundation@krita.org. Otherwise, for people in the EU, our bank account is ING, BIC: INGBNL2A, IBAN: NL72INGB0007216397 .

As someone who recently paid 200€ in fines to another EU tax authority over 150€ in income, of which I was exempt, just for marking the wrong box, I can sympathize. Just made a small donation.

In the US, a wrong "box" cost me around over $3K last year. This shit happens, unfortunately.

Re: Krita Foundation in Trouble

#195
post #191

I freaking hate tax. Especially those on the left yelling to tax the "rich" (very few are actually rich nowadays). This is the end result. Innocent companies go out of business (and then there is nothing to tax).

Taxation is theft by definition, but getting rid of it altogether is a completely unrealistic endeavor. All we can hope for is reducing tax rates and educating people about "taxing the rich" (label that is usually used to advocate raising taxes on capital gains).

> Taxation is theft by definition

No, it's by definition not theft. Theft is the unlawful taking of property without consent of the owner; taxation is by definition done by legal authority, and, ipso facto, is not theft.

Now, if you dismiss any moral status of legal authority (not merely legal authority which lacks some proper accountability, but all legal authority irrespective of accountability and structure), then, sure taxation is the moral equivalent of theft without being theft. And if you take the more moderate view that some legal authority is morally relevant, but that that depends on structure and accountability to the governed, then taxation by an improper authority is morally equivalent to theft.

But, by definition, taxation is not theft.

Re: Krita Foundation in Trouble

#197
post #11

Just a quick reminder, if everyone here donates just 3-5$, the expenses will be paid in no time :) Krita is a great software, and even though I'm not an artist it's worth supporting.

Thanks for pointing that out. I usually don't donate but did so this time. Is there a list of open source software that is going through similar hardships that need donations?

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Re: Krita Foundation in Trouble

#198

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same attitude but im still missing that Wacom, thx for info about linux

Huion are good as well, and very cheap.

There are some problems with Huion, but they really try to work with us and we with them -- the latest drivers even fixed the rocker-switch click bug :-)

Re: Krita Foundation in Trouble

#199

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I am not an accountant. This is not tax advice. However, I do international consulting and have to deal with this kind of stuff all the time. Basically, for him , he needs an invoice. It should describe what he's getting and how much it costs. Then it's up to him to convince his company to pay the invoice. Whether or not they can claim it is an expense is probably important to the company, so something like a support…

> Whether or not they can claim it is an expense is probably important to the company, so something like a support contract is much more useful than a sticker (I really, can't imagine how to declare a sticker from a non-partner as an expense...) +100 - absolutely bang on target. > TL;DR: giving him an invoice (especially for a service) will make it easy for him to pay you, but will make things complicated for your ta…

Well... There were complications. This service is not subject to VAT in Russia. There was no service delivered to the Foundation: the Foundation didn't get anything in return for Dmitry's work.

Oh, and in the Netherlands, donations received do not count as income. Stuff just got too complicated for an outfit as small as ours.

Re: Krita Foundation in Trouble

#200
post #178

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That's all you need? An invoice? I don't need to form a company or send you tax forms? I can make an invoice rather easily in LaTeX. So, can I do that? Add a note under the donation page that says, "if you need an invoice for your donation, email us here"?

IANAL, but as was said elsewhere, please don't do that carelessly. It really depends on your local law, but don't go around making fake invoices if you don't have a legal structure. Depending on where you are it would be more or less easy, but don't go exposing yourself. In most countries, those on the receiving end of a (fake) invoice have much less risk than those emitting them. It's actually the jist of this blog…

"It's actually the jist of this blog post. They thought they were square, but tax authorities don't understand how open source non profits work, and they made mistake in the structure. So depending on where you are you have to make sure you stay within the law."

Amen. I spent hours telling the inspector what it was we were doing, and why. And in the end, she still asked what our future profits were likely to be. It just didn't register...

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