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Re: Krita Foundation in Trouble

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I hope this (the "Hacker News effect") doesn't bump up your hosting costs as that's the last thing you'd need. For what it's worth, I've donated. :)

EU bank transfers are free of charge.

This is not true for every bank in every EU country.

Re: Krita Foundation in Trouble

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How would I dontate? The site seems down atm.

It's very slow... The hackernews effect, I'm afraid. Internationally, paypal is easiest: just use foundation@krita.org. Otherwise, for people in the EU, our bank account is ING, BIC: INGBNL2A, IBAN: NL72INGB0007216397 .

I don't even use Krita, but donated €15 anyway, just because I know what it's like to deal with the utter shitstains at the VAT department of the Dutch tax service.

Re: Krita Foundation in Trouble

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How would I dontate? The site seems down atm.

It's very slow... The hackernews effect, I'm afraid. Internationally, paypal is easiest: just use foundation@krita.org. Otherwise, for people in the EU, our bank account is ING, BIC: INGBNL2A, IBAN: NL72INGB0007216397 .

As someone who recently paid 200€ in fines to another EU tax authority over 150€ in income, of which I was exempt, just for marking the wrong box, I can sympathize. Just made a small donation.

Re: Krita Foundation in Trouble

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It seems you didn't actually read (or understand) the post: The problem is that - until now - they DIDN'T split it in two, so currently the tax authorities say "you are some kind of mix between company and non-profit, we do whatever we want with you" (obviously simplified, read the post!). But at least they gave them a suggestion for the FUTURE: Split up, you will have no more problems. So, there is no intention to d…

That's exactly what I'm saying. They have busted them cold so they're going to be more careful about their fraud in the future by splitting the company in half.

Do you even understand what VAT is and how it works?

They are and were collecting VAT on their sales. This part is unavoidable regardless.

For the stuff they buy, they're not avoiding VAT. There's no point in avoiding VAT because it doesn't cost a business anything. YOU GET IT BACK FROM THE STATE. The whole point of VAT is that it is a zero-sum game for businesses. But due to their old structure, they're in a situation where they have to pay but can't get back. That's not how VAT is supposed to work.

Re: Krita Foundation in Trouble

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That's exactly what I'm saying. They have busted them cold so they're going to be more careful about their fraud in the future by splitting the company in half.

Do you even understand what VAT is and how it works? They are and were collecting VAT on their sales. This part is unavoidable regardless. For the stuff they buy, they're not avoiding VAT. There's no point in avoiding VAT because it doesn't cost a business anything. YOU GET IT BACK FROM THE STATE. The whole point of VAT is that it is a zero-sum game for businesses. But due to their old structure, they're in a situati…

Of course I know what VAT is. I am a freelancer based in Europe. And I know if I'm paying SOMEONE for his services I also have to pay VAT, regardless of whether I'll get it back later or not. Why? Because I have to prove that VAT was spent in something related to my business (I can't have the VAT from my food returned, for example). It does not only apply to goods, it also applies to services.

Re: Krita Foundation in Trouble

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I don't get it. Isn't Dmitry the guy responsible for paying the VAT for the Dutch authorities?

If they were within the EU they would be. But because Dimitry is outside the EU, whoever's importing their work from outside the EU is responsible. (This prevents avoiding VAT by having your work done outside the EU). The EU has no way to go after an outside entity, so that's how it has to be.

Re: Krita Foundation in Trouble

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> Even if the inspector determines that VAT needs to be charged on these services, shouldn't it be Dmitry who is paying them, not the foundation? From the look of it, Dmitry is outside the EU, making the foundation the importer and thus responsible for the VAT.

I never heard of this. Is that actually a rule in the Netherlands? I don't think/hope it is in the UK at least.

This is a rule everywhere, in every nation with any serious tax system - otherwise it is a big loop hole for everyone and no taxes at all would be collected.

Example: a dutch company sells a product to dutch consumers. They have to pay VAT. However what if they setup a company in another country that first buys the products for 0.001 cents and then sells the products back for full price to the consumer.

Most, if not all, countries do not apply VAT on exports.

In the end it doesnt matter where it was produced. Its taxed based on where it was consumed.

When an economic union such as the EU refer to an internal market they mean stuff like this. But as a result all VAT in the EU are now almost identical (or else your own producers would be tempted to move the profit to another EU country)

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