The fact that this switch exists is the real tragedy here - not the fact that Apple chose to use it.
Apple Removes Apps from China Store That Help Internet Users Evade Censorship
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It's unclear that Xi cannot pull that off.
Well if he does that, then I would call him a dictator. But if he does not, I hope you would stop calling him that. Also, there was no precedence in PRC for such thing.
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You get 10 days before your app stops working and you have to do it again. It's a real pain in the butt.
Where do you get that from? Creating app with your own dev account can run on your device for more than 10 days... [Update] ok I just checked the limitation of the free dev account, and yes because of certificates it is only valid for 7 days... I was thinking about the regular $$ account.
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#264Earlier quoted context omitted.
UK is the surveillance capital of this planet [1]. PM May expressed readiness to "tear up Human Rights"[2]. UK is the enabler of Chinese CP leadership, not a follower. [1]: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/19/extreme-survei... [2]: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/06/theresa-may...
The UK has been a leader in developing internet censorship for over 20 years; it's never been just one party or government. When certain big network equipment companies (this was before Huawei cloned everything) responded to criticism for building the Great Firewall of China by saying they were only supplying off-the-shelf gear already in use in the West, they weren't lying.
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#265Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's so easy to claim the West shouldn't do what the leadership of China wants in China, but in reality the only alternative is to abandon China to those who will do what they are ordered to. That line of "reasoning" makes it a self-fulfilling prophecy, then. (It additionally feels ethically unsound to me; the "if I don't do it, someone else will, therefore it's okay" — no, it's still not okay. And that's what peop…
Is there no chance whatsoever that large American companies could influence the Chinese government by establishing a market presence and then threatening to leave / alter it? This is what they do in the the US. I know that China is usually happy to just start their own Google/Facebook/Amazon/Netflix, so perhaps I'm being naive. As much as I cringe at American companies kowtowing to oppressive governments, it seems li…
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#266What happens in China now could happen in 5 years in the rest of the world. For "security" reasons or "fight agains terrorism", while it's really a fight between those in power and those who want power :-( The need for IPFS, webRTC and other non-centralized protocols becomes more pressing every day, to defend everyone who is stuck in between.
> What happens in China now could happen in 5 years in the rest of the world. China? This has been happening in the US and Europe for years. Look how heavily censored all social media is now.
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And yet using a VPN is still somehow "against the will of the people" ...
You'll notice the same usernames and patterns of argumentation every time there is an article with comments remotely criticizing (or even questioning) China.
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#268Hey Timmy, what was all that talk about customer security? https://www.apple.com/customer-letter/ And here I was, almost believing you. You're a coward.
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They could always do what Google did and abandon China.
Nah, they really can't. Apple's margins depend on Chinese labor to build their hardware. The two companies are very different.
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This post claims otherwise: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14880751
My point was you can side-load apps. As for that specific API even the official docs seem a bit confused: "Except when you use the NEHotspotHelper class, you do not need to obtain entitlements from Apple to use Network Extension classes. However, you still need to enable the Network Extension entitlement via the Developer portal."
They're merely handing out breadcrumbs to give the appearance of a way out which they can retract at any time.