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This is awful, but in England and America, I foresee similar policies will come - in the name of law, safety, and security.
Neither America nor the U.K. have national firewalls in place.
Hey Timmy, what was all that talk about customer security? https://www.apple.com/customer-letter/ And here I was, almost believing you. You're a coward.
While you're calling another man a coward for not living your values, I'm wondering what you've done to stand up against China that's so fucking brave.
Just common sense, given that the China gobertment has made usage of VPNs illegal. What do you expect? People in China could continue using app store accounts created in other countries as usual. And most educated people continue using VPNs too. Normal people are becoming experts in encription, security... It worries me more that countries like the UK and the US want to follow China, in that order.
And this isn't a China-vs-the-West thing. The idea that people deserve and need to be able to communicate freely predates the current governments of both China and the U.S.
Hey Timmy, what was all that talk about customer security? https://www.apple.com/customer-letter/ And here I was, almost believing you. You're a coward.
> You're a coward. While you're calling another man a coward for not living your values, I'm wondering what you've done to stand up against China that's so fucking brave.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_Man
> While you're calling another man a coward for not living your values, I'm wondering what you've done to stand up against China that's so fucking brave.
Well for one thing, I didn't remove vpn apps from my app store.
Hey Timmy, what was all that talk about customer security? https://www.apple.com/customer-letter/ And here I was, almost believing you. You're a coward.
> You're a coward. While you're calling another man a coward for not living your values, I'm wondering what you've done to stand up against China that's so fucking brave.
He is pointing out that they are supposedly cook's own values.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or perhaps corporations could have a little backbone. Perhaps in their mission statements say that they will prefer to lose profits if it means not trading in a country that performs (x) Edit: (sametmax) I can't seem to reply - I think the chains too long ? Either way: Doesn't that mean we should actually be a little upset ? Look I'm no sjw freaking out over everything, nor do I run around scrwing boycot, but perhaps…
I wish. But... Most people don't have the guts. Why would you expect corporation to have it ? This is the reality of the world, most people don't care about making the moral choice and will choose short term benefits. Getting sick over this is like crying because the sky's color displeases you. Spend your energy trying to improve things at your level. This is all you can do.
Just common sense, given that the China gobertment has made usage of VPNs illegal. What do you expect? People in China could continue using app store accounts created in other countries as usual. And most educated people continue using VPNs too. Normal people are becoming experts in encription, security... It worries me more that countries like the UK and the US want to follow China, in that order.
[1]: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/19/extreme-survei...
[2]: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/06/theresa-may...
What happens in China now could happen in 5 years in the rest of the world. For "security" reasons or "fight agains terrorism", while it's really a fight between those in power and those who want power :-( The need for IPFS, webRTC and other non-centralized protocols becomes more pressing every day, to defend everyone who is stuck in between.
At what point does Apple itself bear some responsibility for censoring people? EDIT: Would downvoters please explain their objection to the question? "Apple isn't to blame" and some thoughtful elaboration would be better than just downvoting.
What happens in China now could happen in 5 years in the rest of the world. For "security" reasons or "fight agains terrorism", while it's really a fight between those in power and those who want power :-( The need for IPFS, webRTC and other non-centralized protocols becomes more pressing every day, to defend everyone who is stuck in between.