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Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by 542458 »

bbarn wrote: post #51
interfixus wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Minority view: I dislike airbags. If it were legal - which it is not where I live - I would have them out of my car today. The rest of you are welcome to the damned things and the undoubtedly enhanced security they provide. Me, I shall never be thoroughly comfortable with a giant armed boxing glove pointed at my head. [Edit: typo]

I agree. They also are the reason most cars now involved in an collision where one goes off are totaled. We're a lot safer, with respect to potential fatality level crashes, but minor collisions that used to be a few hundred bucks at the body shop are now vehicle ending affairs.

> minor collisions that used to be a few hundred bucks at the body shop are now vehicle ending affairs.

It's worth noting that a lot of this is due to massively improved crumple zone technology - older cars have smaller and sturdier crumple zones, meaning the cars drive away from accidents more intact (although the human being inside might be pretty messed up). New cars take much more damage in relatively small accidents to disperse as much energy as possible. Bad for resale value, but good for human survival.

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by nradov »

yellowapple wrote: post #45
interfixus wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Minority view: I dislike airbags. If it were legal - which it is not where I live - I would have them out of my car today. The rest of you are welcome to the damned things and the undoubtedly enhanced security they provide. Me, I shall never be thoroughly comfortable with a giant armed boxing glove pointed at my head. [Edit: typo]

I agree, to an extent. In some crash scenarios, an airbag is useful. In others, it's actually more harmful than good. I reckon what's more useful than an airbag in all situations, though, is a good restraint system.

That's why airbag control systems are programmed to only activate in crash scenarios where they do more good than harm. It's not as if all 10 airbags will instantly inflate in every possible crash.

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by Symbiote »

outside1234 wrote: post #43
bluGill wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you talking about people buying a truck to get to their desk job, or people buying a truck to haul a load? Those are two different groups with different requirements. The first group like the tough image, but so long as it goes 100 miles round trip and you can put something in it they have their needs met and the rest is about image. This group just needs an electric car drive train. The second group actually nee…

Does the second require more than 200 miles of range between charging (honest question)?

That probably depends on the location.

Most farmers, workmen or mechanics in Europe should be fine with a 200 mile range, but it might not work in Texas.

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by jessaustin »

tlb wrote: post #47
robotbikes wrote: post #9

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The most amazing thing is the photo of the lumber where a hole underneath the dash is revealed allowing the hauling of lumber the entire length of the vehicle. That is an impressive amount of utility right there. Whether quirky features like that would survive the process towards production remain to be seen, but this is certainly an interesting take on a truck that could be very useful in rural America.

A Tesla model S fits 10' lengths of lumber. Just protect the dashboard from scuffing with a blanket.

Basically any midsize-and-up with hatchback-style fold-down rear seats (even non-hatchbacks with fixed rear dashes) will accommodate such lumber. Some would require the removal of the passenger seat headrest.

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by Phlarp »

flamedoge wrote: post #53
bbarn wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree. They also are the reason most cars now involved in an collision where one goes off are totaled. We're a lot safer, with respect to potential fatality level crashes, but minor collisions that used to be a few hundred bucks at the body shop are now vehicle ending affairs.

why does it need to be totaled?

Two deployed airbags in a moderate (but not life threatening) crash likely cost $1000 each to replace, in addition to whatever other damage has been done to the vehicle.

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by justadeveloper2 »

mywittyname wrote: post #65
interfixus wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Minority view: I dislike airbags. If it were legal - which it is not where I live - I would have them out of my car today. The rest of you are welcome to the damned things and the undoubtedly enhanced security they provide. Me, I shall never be thoroughly comfortable with a giant armed boxing glove pointed at my head. [Edit: typo]

Really? Seat belts without airbags are dangerous. At best you risk smashing your face on something hard, at worst, you're looking at orthopedic decapitation in relatively minor accidents.

I drove cars without airbags for most of my life. I even still have a car without airbags. Whether it's a good idea or not is debatable, but your statement that it's dangerous doesn't resonate with me. Airbags are a false sense of security and may or may not help you and were originally devised as a way to help drivers who don't use their seat belts. Airbags certainly do run the cost and complexity of cars way up, however. In the past, airbags have injured drivers and can go off unexpectedly (and even killed people when doing so).

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by Shivetya »

still think the best place is school buses. you know where they will be parked and their exact routes. plus you get kids and parents used to electric vehicles on an every day use.

yes they are expensive but all it takes is a spike in gas prices to seriously hurt some districts who got hit hard the last time it went high.

there are many markets for vehicles which have set operation ranges and known routes. EV tech ain't near replacing combustion in many cases but in tightly controlled instances it does work. (range, charging, weather, and cost are the four areas all being worked on and all needing work)

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by rebootthesystem »

kikimaru wrote: post #19
masklinn wrote: post #2

Looks interesting, the front trunk and cut-down "UI" look especially great. This looks like an EV you could actually work on in your garage. Vaporware until they get a production line though, and the absence of airbag is somewhat worrying when it advertises a top speed of 127mph and 0-60 in 4.5, at a GVWR 10klbs it's outside the light truck regs (8.5klbs GVWR) and thus doesn't require them but still... Of note, the V…

To be fair, any crash above 70mph and the airbag might as well not exist.

This is simply not true. What causes damage and hurts or kills is rapid deceleration, not speed. Sure, speed is a necessary component in order to achieve the most violent deceleration but speed alone does guarantee damage at all.

The racing world proves this conclusively. Watch Formula 1 or NASCAR and you'll see 200 mph crashes where everyone walks away. Watch motorcycle racing and see guys fall of their bikes at all kinds of speeds and just glide on their backs until they stop, get up and walk away. I went off track at Willow Springs raceway doing 120 mph, no big deal.

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by aliston »

I've been looking at buying an electric car recently and was surprised that the list of electic SUVs is really small. There's basically the Model X and not all that much more. The Rav4 got discontinued.

It seems to me that this is a huge market opportunity. The technology is right on the cusp of being very practical in terms of range. Soccer moms who commute to the grocery store and occasionally go on a trip to the mountains want a car with room and 4WD. If such a car existed, they would be shouting "take my money!" Not quite sure why the car manufacturers aren't building these things.

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