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Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by tyingq »

burger_moon wrote: post #18

Can you recharge these on a normal gas generator? Something like a Miller engine driven generator[1] could probably do it but those are $$$ for the average joe. I only ask because a lot of people trailer their rock crawlers/mudders to more remote areas to go play and have fun, but when the electricity runs dry you'll need a way to power it back up. This thing looks like it'd be a lot of fun not only for daily use but…

Here's a thread on doing this with a Nissan Leaf.

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=5792

From that and similar threads on Teslas, the caveats seem to be:

- Need a sine wave generator vs the cheaper square wave ones.

- Some cars allow you to adjust the current draw to match lower output generators, some don't. Cheap generators probably don't output enough current.

- You have to tie neutral to ground and use a real ground rod.

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by chapmindustries »

kikimaru wrote: post #19
masklinn wrote: post #2

Looks interesting, the front trunk and cut-down "UI" look especially great. This looks like an EV you could actually work on in your garage. Vaporware until they get a production line though, and the absence of airbag is somewhat worrying when it advertises a top speed of 127mph and 0-60 in 4.5, at a GVWR 10klbs it's outside the light truck regs (8.5klbs GVWR) and thus doesn't require them but still... Of note, the V…

To be fair, any crash above 70mph and the airbag might as well not exist.

Not true. If you weren't paying attention and crashed into a car slowing down somewhat gently in front of you then the crash could be rather prolonged and the airbag would be absolutely essential. If you crash into a brick wall going 70 mph that's a totally different situation.

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by outside1234 »

bluGill wrote: post #26
stephengillie wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An electric drivetrain is incongruent with traditional truck marketing, apparently. A great deal of this is in the visceral sensation of proximity to a powerful engine - the loud noises, the excessive exhaust, the overbearing atmospheric vibrations, etc. Frustrating in that the most realistic option is retrofitting an existing electric car drivetrain to a small truck frame.

Are you talking about people buying a truck to get to their desk job, or people buying a truck to haul a load? Those are two different groups with different requirements. The first group like the tough image, but so long as it goes 100 miles round trip and you can put something in it they have their needs met and the rest is about image. This group just needs an electric car drive train. The second group actually nee…

Does the second require more than 200 miles of range between charging (honest question)?

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by [deleted] »

apardoe-MSFT wrote: post #35
yellowapple wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there some definition of "truck" which this vehicle does not fulfill?

My definition of truck: if you can't dump a ton of shit in the bed with a backhoe, it's not a truck. It's a minivan. For me, having a permanent bed cover means it's not useful as a truck.

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Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by yellowapple »

interfixus wrote: post #40
masklinn wrote: post #2

Looks interesting, the front trunk and cut-down "UI" look especially great. This looks like an EV you could actually work on in your garage. Vaporware until they get a production line though, and the absence of airbag is somewhat worrying when it advertises a top speed of 127mph and 0-60 in 4.5, at a GVWR 10klbs it's outside the light truck regs (8.5klbs GVWR) and thus doesn't require them but still... Of note, the V…

Minority view: I dislike airbags. If it were legal - which it is not where I live - I would have them out of my car today. The rest of you are welcome to the damned things and the undoubtedly enhanced security they provide. Me, I shall never be thoroughly comfortable with a giant armed boxing glove pointed at my head. [Edit: typo]

I agree, to an extent. In some crash scenarios, an airbag is useful. In others, it's actually more harmful than good.

I reckon what's more useful than an airbag in all situations, though, is a good restraint system.

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by 6stringmerc »

Fascinating approach and re-thinking of a utility vehicle. I'm thinking the 10,000 - 20,000 units is pretty ambitious. Hence why The Verge politely just mentions that Bollinger hasn't figured out a "final price" yet but fails to mention what a "current estimate of final price" might be.

When I think of utility vehicles, I think of Defender 90 and Toyota Hilux type vehicles - spartan, proven, reparable in many parts of the world. When I think of a new car model, even from large manufacturers, I get the jitters of being a first-adopter. So much gets learned and shaken out by real-world, human use. Nice idea, but I'm a dreamer at heart and through receiving lots of pragmatic feedback, I kind of see this through the same lens.

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by tlb »

robotbikes wrote: post #9
masklinn wrote: post #2

Looks interesting, the front trunk and cut-down "UI" look especially great. This looks like an EV you could actually work on in your garage. Vaporware until they get a production line though, and the absence of airbag is somewhat worrying when it advertises a top speed of 127mph and 0-60 in 4.5, at a GVWR 10klbs it's outside the light truck regs (8.5klbs GVWR) and thus doesn't require them but still... Of note, the V…

The most amazing thing is the photo of the lumber where a hole underneath the dash is revealed allowing the hauling of lumber the entire length of the vehicle. That is an impressive amount of utility right there. Whether quirky features like that would survive the process towards production remain to be seen, but this is certainly an interesting take on a truck that could be very useful in rural America.

A Tesla model S fits 10' lengths of lumber. Just protect the dashboard from scuffing with a blanket.

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by criddell »

ClassyJacket wrote: post #38
frabbit wrote: post #34

Hopefully these will be restricted to use on farmland instead of being inappropriately paraded in suburban areas. Electric vehicles are not "clean", they're merely cleaner.

Excuse me? What claims are you making exactly regarding electric vehicles that mean they shouldn't be allowed on public roads?

Not the OP, but one justification is that they aren't consuming gasoline and taxes on gasoline are primarily how roads are paid for. I wouldn't go as far as the OP, but instead I would hope the government finds some way to tax electric vehicles equitably or change how road funding works.
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