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The difference between iPhone + Android: Great since day one

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Re: The difference between iPhone + Android: Great since day one

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Post by cageface »

axod wrote: post #4

Apple is great on day one since it doesn't actually have many features. I'm loving my Nexus One here, which has just been updated to 2.2 :) Different ringtones (Anything you like) for sms/email/facebook, tethering, portable hotspot! Flash? Simply in a different league than iPhone. The early Android hardware sucked, but the N1 is pretty solid. >> The Android ecosystem doesn’t seem capable of producing devices that are…

I had an iPhone for 3 years or so. It was a great device for what it did, but the whole hassle of having to use iTunes. No removable storage. Can't just stuff mp3's on it and use as ringtones. Can't just copy photos off it unless you go through the right software. It's just a PITA. Not to mention the mass of features that are just lacking on the iPhone but you take for granted on Android.

Exactly. Mobile doesn't mean you can copy your stuff onto something portable. It means you've got a window to your stuff in your pocket. Google's information-centric approach makes a lot more sense than Apple's device-centric approach.

Re: The difference between iPhone + Android: Great since day one

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Post by stcredzero »

I need more data. What else was, "Great since day one?" In particular, is there anything that's not Apple that fits this? Toyota and Honda, maybe? My Sennheiser wireless mics? The PS2? I'm looking around my apartment and I'm having a hard time finding non-Apple stuff that fits that description. My Gerber Suspension pocket tool fits the bill, I think. The Logitech VX Revolution mouse does as well. I think about half of the "Great since day one" stuff is made by Apple! Most everything else required tinkering. The BenQ 520MP projector just worked and was great. Ah, my old GE 2 alarm AM/FM clock radio. That thing was cheap as hell, it's as solidly built as something can be from plastic, and it just works great. Oh, and of course, my Nintendo DS! My apartment is full of stuff that takes tinkering!

Re: The difference between iPhone + Android: Great since day one

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Post by jacquesm »

judofyr wrote: post #21
martythemaniak wrote: post #20

You know why people make stuff like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg Because you can't just get an Android phone and use it and be happy with it. There's always some hipster or yuppie or desperate-to-be-cool nerd that'll start going on and on and on about how amazingly great their iPhone is, was and always will be and how they have taste which you, as a non-Jobs product buyer, obviously don't. A lot o…

Well, to be fair, the same guy also make stuff like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAOtC9QfXac

But why would you post it twice ?

Also, I've yet to meet my first 'Android fanboy', but I've met plenty of Iphone fanboys in real life.

I'm sure they exist but either not around here or they're not as much 'in your face' about it.

Re: The difference between iPhone + Android: Great since day one

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Post by axod »

cageface wrote: post #31
axod wrote: post #4

Apple is great on day one since it doesn't actually have many features. I'm loving my Nexus One here, which has just been updated to 2.2 :) Different ringtones (Anything you like) for sms/email/facebook, tethering, portable hotspot! Flash? Simply in a different league than iPhone. The early Android hardware sucked, but the N1 is pretty solid. >> The Android ecosystem doesn’t seem capable of producing devices that are…

I had an iPhone for 3 years or so. It was a great device for what it did, but the whole hassle of having to use iTunes. No removable storage. Can't just stuff mp3's on it and use as ringtones. Can't just copy photos off it unless you go through the right software. It's just a PITA. Not to mention the mass of features that are just lacking on the iPhone but you take for granted on Android. Exactly. Mobile doesn't mean…

Yup. And over the air updates are obviously a good idea. I plug my Nexus One into my computer when I want to, not when it needs to be plugged in (Unlike the iPhone). It stands up as a device on its own.

Re: The difference between iPhone + Android: Great since day one

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Post by cmelbye »

irrelative wrote: post #22

The hatred of linux on the desktop is terribly cliche, especially on a site targeted towards hackers. Linux on my desktop is the greatest development environment I've ever used, having played extensively with OSX and Windows as well. I can easily install new libraries and "apt-get source" allows me to tinker with existing software easily and immediately build and execute the results. All of the development environmen…

You completely missed the point of this article, which I find odd because the author clearly explained why he compared Android with desktop Linux. By "Linux on the desktop", he means Linux on regular Joe's desktop, not the hacker's desktop. The author agrees with you that Linux is made for people like you that want/need the extra control, etc, whatever. This is not what the majority are looking for in a desktop distribution.

Re: The difference between iPhone + Android: Great since day one

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Post by cmelbye »

barrkel wrote: post #18

The iPhone was a poor device on day one. Limited to a poor carrier, it was a poor phone, with only a handful of built-in apps, no GPS, etc. The Nexus One was a quite a nice device from day one, and in my opinion better than the iPhone 3GS. But this is apples to oranges. The way a device is from day one is less relevant when the race is long. What was important in competing with Apple's first move was being first to a…

Why would you even compare the Nexus One to the first generation iPhone? That's like saying "The first computer in existence sucked, my Mac Pro is way better."

Re: The difference between iPhone + Android: Great since day one

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Post by nir »

Seems to me Android is "Linux on the desktop". It's a user facing Linux-derived operating system, and seems well on track to become the most widely used OS in a few years.

Pure desktop Linux never took off, for various reasons (at least some of them non-software related at all). It doesn't matter, the desktop is no longer the main way we use an OS.

Re: The difference between iPhone + Android: Great since day one

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Post by jodrellblank »

axod wrote: post #4

Apple is great on day one since it doesn't actually have many features. I'm loving my Nexus One here, which has just been updated to 2.2 :) Different ringtones (Anything you like) for sms/email/facebook, tethering, portable hotspot! Flash? Simply in a different league than iPhone. The early Android hardware sucked, but the N1 is pretty solid. >> The Android ecosystem doesn’t seem capable of producing devices that are…

Can't just copy photos off it unless you go through the right software.

Plug it in to a windows pc, it appears as a read only drive with your pictures / videos on it for 'just' copying off.

Re: The difference between iPhone + Android: Great since day one

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Post by axod »

jodrellblank wrote: post #38
axod wrote: post #4

Apple is great on day one since it doesn't actually have many features. I'm loving my Nexus One here, which has just been updated to 2.2 :) Different ringtones (Anything you like) for sms/email/facebook, tethering, portable hotspot! Flash? Simply in a different league than iPhone. The early Android hardware sucked, but the N1 is pretty solid. >> The Android ecosystem doesn’t seem capable of producing devices that are…

Can't just copy photos off it unless you go through the right software. Plug it in to a windows pc, it appears as a read only drive with your pictures / videos on it for 'just' copying off.

  * I don't have windows
  * Read only? lame
Having a microSD card, and being able to mount it r/w mass storage from anything, is pretty nice. It's irritating that Apple don't recognize things like that.

Re: The difference between iPhone + Android: Great since day one

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Post by axod »

cmelbye wrote: post #36
barrkel wrote: post #18

The iPhone was a poor device on day one. Limited to a poor carrier, it was a poor phone, with only a handful of built-in apps, no GPS, etc. The Nexus One was a quite a nice device from day one, and in my opinion better than the iPhone 3GS. But this is apples to oranges. The way a device is from day one is less relevant when the race is long. What was important in competing with Apple's first move was being first to a…

Why would you even compare the Nexus One to the first generation iPhone? That's like saying "The first computer in existence sucked, my Mac Pro is way better."

I went from iPhone 3G to Nexus One and it was a massive step up. From what I've seen the Nexus One is still far superior in functionality to the iPhone 4.
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