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“We will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020”

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Re: “We will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020”

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Post by TheCoreh »

BLanen wrote: post #85
methodover wrote: post #12

I say this every time someone brings up Flash's failure, but ... It's a tragic failure on Adobe's part. The tools for 2D animations and games in Flash are far beyond anything else out there from a creative standpoint. There isn't a product on the market that comes even close. Everything now is too technical, too specialized. There are lots and lots of artists and developers out there who learned Flash's toolset and g…

Adobe now has "Adobe Animate" though.

Yeah, the Flash creation tools will remain in development, simply rebranded as "Animate". The plugin is no longer needed, since Animate can export to HTML/JS/SVG or to video files. This is by far the best outcome: We get to keep the awesome creation tools, but it exports on free/open formats.

Re: “We will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020”

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Post by otterpro »

Does this mean an end of all things related to Flash ecosystem or just Flash itself? I still have Adobe Air apps (as rare as it may seem) that I use regularly. Does anybody know the best way to migrate Adobe Air apps to HTML5? My guess is to use Adobe Animate CC, but it is not free..

Re: “We will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020”

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Post by gameshot911 »

sushisource wrote: post #123
rocky1138 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They still have time. There's nothing stopping them from doing this. It would certainly help archival efforts and benefit people who do animations.

Not much money in it, though.

Vs all the cash in EOLing it? Unless the idea is to push people to buy a newer product?

Re: “We will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020”

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Post by samfisher83 »

It seems like instead of programming for flash player you have to program for each browsers HTML/JS quirks. People trash flash, but these browsers also have security holes. Its hard to make any really complex piece of software completely secure.

Re: “We will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020”

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Post by yellowapple »

ivraatiems wrote: post #67
rocky1138 wrote: post #64

> Specifically, we will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020 and encourage content creators to migrate any existing Flash content to these new open formats. Why not open source it and make Flash the open format instead?

That'd encourage people to use flash, which is the opposite of what most everyone in web development (and possibly on the web, period) wants.

People mainly want Flash to die because it's a closed standard/platform that can't be improved by third parties and has lagged behind modern web standards as a result. Opening up Flash would address that problem and make the idea of Flash on a modern website significantly less horrid.

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Post by amyjess »

andrioni wrote: post #113
amyjess wrote: post #102

As much as I want people to stop using Flash for new projects, I'm worried what this means for preservation. There are a lot of old Flash games and other stuff out there that has never been ported to HTML5 and have been abandoned by their creators. A decade from now, we're probably going to need to run an old OS in a VM just to run this old content. We're at risk of a digital dark age already, and this is just going…

It's actually pretty weird that would stop distributing it, especially since they still distribute a Shockwave Player, and well, Shockwave has been completely dead for long time now.

Even if they continue distributing it, newer operating systems and browsers may not be able to run it.

Re: “We will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020”

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Post by jordache »

I would wager flash can still be used to develop movie set UIs, and other internalized use cases. However those can also be utilized outside the realm of web browsers.

It's benefit is a powerful full featured scripting language, in conjunction with a canvas that is easy to achieve pixel accuracy.

Re: “We will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020”

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Post by akoncius »

GuiA wrote: post #63
methodover wrote: post #12

I say this every time someone brings up Flash's failure, but ... It's a tragic failure on Adobe's part. The tools for 2D animations and games in Flash are far beyond anything else out there from a creative standpoint. There isn't a product on the market that comes even close. Everything now is too technical, too specialized. There are lots and lots of artists and developers out there who learned Flash's toolset and g…

Not uncommon for these kind of giant step backwards in the world of computing. I was in a plane the other day sitting next to an elderly gentleman who saw me using Apple products. He then proceeded to tell me how he's been on mac since 1984, and absolutely loved Apple products before, but now he's stuck on OS X 10.6 because it's the last version that supports AppleWorks, a tool he's been using for over 20 years. No c…

main reason why products are discontinued usually is that it's not worth for company to maintain old product if user base is small or decreasing and product is not profitable anymore. Even if company is not actively developing new features in that software, still it requires maintenance - fixing bugs, updating libraries to keep it working with new OSes and so on, and it has a huge cost, assuming that there are big teams dedicated to products.

Also sometimes vision changes for whole company and existing products does not fit that vision anymore and company decides to kill it.

Regarding "never changing" software idea: it inherently is doomed because by default user base will be shrinking - majority of people would move on newer (with better features) software and only handful of users would continue using old "not changing" software. It's jut not worth it, and is too small niche.

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