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“We will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020”

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Re: “We will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020”

#81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still is bundled with Chrome.

Oh I see, it's behind a "click-to-play" thing. For some reason I thought it was gone.

I can understand why, I feel like the Chrome team has announced 3 or 4 times over the last 5 years that Flash was going away, but the only change was that you had to click to play it, and the other announcements seemed useless.

Re: “We will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020”

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post #26

I say this every time someone brings up Flash's failure, but ... It's a tragic failure on Adobe's part. The tools for 2D animations and games in Flash are far beyond anything else out there from a creative standpoint. There isn't a product on the market that comes even close. Everything now is too technical, too specialized. There are lots and lots of artists and developers out there who learned Flash's toolset and g…

> And there aren't even better tools to replace it. Haxe? http://haxe.org/

Haxe is an awesome programming language, but that's not really what he was talking about:

> The tools for 2D animations and games

Re: “We will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020”

#83

I say this every time someone brings up Flash's failure, but ... It's a tragic failure on Adobe's part. The tools for 2D animations and games in Flash are far beyond anything else out there from a creative standpoint. There isn't a product on the market that comes even close. Everything now is too technical, too specialized. There are lots and lots of artists and developers out there who learned Flash's toolset and g…

A lot went downhill after Adobe bought Macromedia. Flash use to be light weight, small and incredibly good for displaying vector graphics. You can scale up older Flash content to 1080p and it still looks great. You can't do that with YouTube videos of older flash content. Many animation studios still use Flash .. to make their YouTube videos. It ran on three platforms (Mac, Linux, Win) and was a much better portable…

There's a lot we'll lose once Flash goes away forever, in a way that can't be archived like old Geocities pages (unless someone makes a Flash player in Javascript O_o)

Looks like it's possible:

https://github.com/mozilla/shumway

http://mozilla.github.io/shumway/examples/inspector/inspecto...

Re: “We will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020”

#84

I say this every time someone brings up Flash's failure, but ... It's a tragic failure on Adobe's part. The tools for 2D animations and games in Flash are far beyond anything else out there from a creative standpoint. There isn't a product on the market that comes even close. Everything now is too technical, too specialized. There are lots and lots of artists and developers out there who learned Flash's toolset and g…

And AS3/FLex is still better then JS/and any JS framework

Amen.

AS3 is one of the best languages I've ever used. Easy to use, dynamic but also statically typed when you want it with many of features from Java and C# which still aren't available in JS.

I wrote this a couple of months back: https://medium.com/@Pier/ecmascript-4-was-too-ahead-of-its-t...

Re: “We will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020”

#85

I say this every time someone brings up Flash's failure, but ... It's a tragic failure on Adobe's part. The tools for 2D animations and games in Flash are far beyond anything else out there from a creative standpoint. There isn't a product on the market that comes even close. Everything now is too technical, too specialized. There are lots and lots of artists and developers out there who learned Flash's toolset and g…

Adobe now has "Adobe Animate" though.

Re: “We will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020”

#86
post #2

I have seen a massive downtrend in flash use already. Is there anyone building building new and serious projects in it now?

Sadly yes...

VMWare is one large one.

I know of a very large company that has been over the last couple of years moving from Java to Flash, so it will be amusing to what their reaction will be to this news.

Re: “We will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020”

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post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks dead, but https://github.com/tobytailor/gordon

Shumway was a followup to this. Flash -> Gordon -> Shumway ;-) But they're all dormant/dead. Compatibility is really hard.

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Re: “We will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020”

#88

I say this every time someone brings up Flash's failure, but ... It's a tragic failure on Adobe's part. The tools for 2D animations and games in Flash are far beyond anything else out there from a creative standpoint. There isn't a product on the market that comes even close. Everything now is too technical, too specialized. There are lots and lots of artists and developers out there who learned Flash's toolset and g…

They should've open sourced it and invested heavily in security, stability and performance. People blamed Apple back in the day for not including it on iOS but given that how many critical bugs have been found in the time since then you can't blame them.

If they would have open sourced flash player I think we'd be in a much different place today. Not like they'd lose any ground on their actual profit center - the Flash animation tool and development environment, which is still seriously something fairly unique.

Maybe they can still reach that state if they invest serious effort in making their tool able to export HTML5.

Re: “We will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020”

#89

> Specifically, we will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020 and encourage content creators to migrate any existing Flash content to these new open formats. Why not open source it and make Flash the open format instead?

That'd encourage people to use flash, which is the opposite of what most everyone in web development (and possibly on the web, period) wants.

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Re: “We will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020”

#90

> will be phased out by the end of 2020. At that point, Adobe will stop updating and distributing Flash. Adobes stance on backwards compatibility in Flash has always been "Don't break the web". Where does this leave all the existing flash content that still exists around the web after 2020? As far as I know, those JS emulators are way to slow for most content.

> Adobes stance on backwards compatibility in Flash has always been "Don't break the web".

Flash wasn't the web. Opaque, unsearchable blobs break the web. Screwing around with controls etc break the web.

Adobe's hope was to replace the open web.

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