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MS Paint is here to stay

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Re: MS Paint is here to stay

#271
The article really says,

We thought MS Paint was so great, we decided to list all the features that Paint 3D has that are similar to what MS Paint has. And we want to mention that Paint 3D is FREE!

These are the results for searching "MS Paint" on windows.com:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/search/result.aspx?q=MS+Pain...

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

#272

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Some motivation for your reaction would be great!

It is not vetted properly nor delivers apps people need. Other than the stupid forced ones that is. Additionally it does not work properly without a Microsoft account (could've changed) forcing it to be off if Active Domain is used.

Since Windows 8.1 a couple years back, you can sign into a Microsoft account in the Store on top of an Active Domain account without confusing/combining them. Since Windows 8.1 you can even sign into a Microsoft account on an individual app basis, signing in for specific app purchases only. Since early Windows 10 that individual app basis has been expanded so that most free apps don't require a Microsoft account to sign in at all, if you so desire.

Furthermore, the Windows Store for Business uses Active Domain accounts entirely and allows you to connect Windows Store licenses to corporate licensing policies, if you want to control corporate application requisitions centrally but still give users some individual control in Store installed apps. (Not to mention carrying private internal apps for an enterprise.) WSB has been around in various capacities since Windows 8.1 as well, but also fully came into its own very early in Windows 10.

As for application vetting and "apps people need", that's entirely a subjective judgment, but there is an application vetting process in place which is more than you can say about the traditional google for an MSI/EXE and hope its correct install process.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

#273

This thread shows clearly the negativity around everything Microsoft does, especially if you compare to other technology companies. Apple deprecates some API or removes a feature? "It's the future, you have to adapt, etc" Microsoft deprecates a toy program made 25 years ago, but still offers the option of downloading it for free? "How dare they, I want it in the base install, etc"

And MS Paint got laughed at for the best part of its lifecycle, and for good reasons too. But now that it's gone, everybody goes mad. Really, if you dig deep enough you might find people decrying the demise of f'ing Clippy. Well maybe that's hyperbole, but you get my point.

I poured one out when the Agents Framework was semi-silently removed in Windows 7. I spent many hours building things with that, including class presentations and stupid choose-your-own-adventure game websites with the basic text-to-speech options and the animations of Robby the Robot and Peedy the Parrot, et al.

Clippy was a good idea implemented poorly and ahead of its time. Cortana/Siri/Alexa/Google Assistant is the new the Clippy, RIP Clippy.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

#274
You absolutely need MS Paint on Windows.

For one thing, it provides workarounds for horrible stability and functionality issues with image printing out of the Windows Shell (Windows Explorer).

I think it provides the only way to print an image 1:1 (original scale) without installing third party software. I.e. 600 pixels of a 600 dpi image actually measure one inch. Not all images are photographs that can be scaled; sometimes they are patterns for some real-world object.

How would a Windows user, say, crop an image without MS Paint, using only a vanilla Windows install with no 3rd party anything?

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

#276
post #83

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just use paint 3d, I just tried it out, seems a simple enough replacement for most simple editing tasks

If MS can do something worse that MS Paint, is MS Paint 3d.

It looks like Paint3D can do some pretty cool things: https://webmshare.com/NK89R

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

#277

This thread shows clearly the negativity around everything Microsoft does, especially if you compare to other technology companies. Apple deprecates some API or removes a feature? "It's the future, you have to adapt, etc" Microsoft deprecates a toy program made 25 years ago, but still offers the option of downloading it for free? "How dare they, I want it in the base install, etc"

You know the rule, Apple ALWAYS gets a pass. No matter what they do, no matter how bad they treat their customers, no matter how awful their "upgrades" are, no matter how non-configurable and locked-in their products get over time, no matter the lack of innovation for the past 5 years, they always get a pass. Deal with it, that Jobs residue works its magic for a loooooong time.

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Re: MS Paint is here to stay

#278
post #94

I find the title very contradictory to the article. It's going to "stay", but in the Windows Store (so you have to download), and with very subtle words they say that it's not going to get any updates. So, no Microsoft, you're saying it's going to go more than you're saying it's going to stay.

What updates do you want to see in MS Paint? It's feature complete. Bug fixes?

WebP support would be nice - but that's because Paint is a GUI around GDI/GDI+, so if GDI gets WebP support then Paint gets it for free.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

#279

This thread shows clearly the negativity around everything Microsoft does, especially if you compare to other technology companies. Apple deprecates some API or removes a feature? "It's the future, you have to adapt, etc" Microsoft deprecates a toy program made 25 years ago, but still offers the option of downloading it for free? "How dare they, I want it in the base install, etc"

I wish they would just get rid of notepad.exe. What a piece of garbage.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

#280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure you probably discovered this by now, but the image is kept in memory until it is "saved" via the Save menu. The UX could probably do with some improvement showing that the image is not automatically saved to disk, like scrot or OSX's Image Capture shortcuts, though.

Save menu? The snipping tool disappears as soon as release the mouse button, there is nothing else you can do with it.

lixquid is talking about the old snipping tool, not the one attached to Win+Shift+S.

I agree that it's really unclear what happens when you use Win+Shift+S to grab the screen. No indication at all that the image is on the clipboard.

There needs to be a Win+Ctrl/Alt+Shift+S that automatically saves to the Screenshots directory or something.

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