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I've found Vice News to be great for firsthand reports, but lacking on background material. For example, they did a segment [0] on brown coal strip-mining in Germany. The reporter examined the stark human and environmental toll of the mining, but failed to address why such a dirty form of energy was in demand in the first place. I had to do my own research to find out. What I found, in part because I knew some of the…
FWIW in Germany there has been a strong anti-nuclear sentiment in the public, at least since the reunification. The West German Greens merged with an alliance of progressive opposition groups from East Germany, resulting in the modern Greens, "Bündnis 90/Die Grünen". The Greens are generally socially progressive (though not by any means socialist) but their core messages are similar to those of NGOs like Greenpeace.…
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#282Earlier quoted context omitted.
> That whole categorization is a joke It's a very serious distinction. One which wars have been fought over many times over (from the french revolution to the cold war). To trivialize it is more than naive. > Tell me what you want, why you want it and how you believe will work best to get it There are many things I personally want but underlying it all is the idea of non-egalitarianism. I want structure in any societ…
The American right and the French revolution right are competly different things, which is another good reason for me to believe the categorization is a joke. They've lost meaning, and serve only to avoid talking details, they naturally lead to partisanship. From what you said, we could have a reasonable conversation, but you sound more libertarian then the current American right. Here lies the issue of affiliation.…
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/26029/what-is-th...
I'd point you to that and say I'd only support your statement in so far as saying part of the American right is not as pro-liberty as it ought to be - this is in reference to neoconservatism and similar ideologies.
> They've lost meaning, and serve only to avoid talking details
They're shorthand and I think they're useful when you're genuine about discussion but want a quick way to understand where an argument is coming from. If you're disingenuous about conversation, it doesn't matter whether labels are used or not, you simply cannot self-regulate your bias to give room for discourse is all I'm saying.
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I'm not sure how NPR and Fox News can be compared in good faith. Yes NPR has a liberal bias, but for the most part it attempts to reasonably source its articles and publish a journalistically accurate news report. Fox News is not a news channel. They have one or two news programs mixed in with "entertainment". Sean Hannity is not news, but entertainment pretending to be news[^1]. [^1]: https://www.dailykos.com/storie…
NPR is known by pretty much every right-of-center person in the nation as being the Fox News of the left. If you're left-of-center you have a stake in NPR's skewed coverage being the neutral truth (because that validates your world view), but it's just not the case. The bias isn't necessarily in the sourcing or the facts, it's in the selective coverage and the constructed narratives and the overt bias in what kind of…
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#284I think it's quite ridiculous that any author can get away with the obscure clairvoyant claim that people are really irrational and desire to be fearful——it's a claim contrary to primitive animal and human psychology alike. The motivation to go buy products associated with fear has nothing to do with fear itself even when you explicitly define fear as an uncomfortable uncertainty. The reason to want to know fear, why…
Irrationality is increasingly well supported by empirical evidence from economics and political science. As for people's motivations to seek out fear-inducing information, you are quite right that some of that is motivated by rsk management but a great deal more of it cannot be explained on utilitarian grounds. freud theorized the existence of a death drive in humans as a correlate of consciousness, suggesting that i…
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Terrorism is a real threat to interests abroad and test on the ability of the US to mitigate small risks. If they can't mitigate small risks how would they be able to mitigate a large risk? Every single human created disturbance (i.e. war) begins with a small group of people cascading into a larger force, with governments it happens with leaders, but it's greatly more unpredictable when it is propagated by an unknown…
That's true as far as it goes, but the emphasis on terrorism in the media is wildly disproportionate to the measurable risks. Compare the ubiquity and intensity of anxiety about climate change, whose existential impact is arguably far more widespread and vastly better quantified. Consider in the light of this discussion that rural voters appear (by inference) to be more concerned about terrorism than urban ones, desp…
You are not disagreeing with me.
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Where is the clarity in mass media.
I'm saying there's not always clarity in reality . Someone says, "look at this giant mess!" and people want a simple answer. Sometimes there isn't one. But people demand clarity, so some will emerge, even if it's false and even if it's fear-based.
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> All I can do is look at Singapore from the outside and be in awe (look at their neigbhours.. then look at Poland's or USA's neighbours and compare the amount of fear). I look at Singapore on the Press Freedom Index (rank 155 out of 180) and am not in awe at all. It scares me that people who grew up in liberal democracies find something to admire about its model. Perhaps it's just that our life experiences are diffe…
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The underlying problem is that with an authoritarian government you have no recourse if it changes its attitude. Prussia was run competently, too, until Wilhelm II inherited the throne. Authoritarian rule is always a gamble.
There's a reason why Popper argued that "who should rule" is the wrong question [1]:
> Karl Popper identified this attitude as the "Who should rule?"
> approach to politics. He pointed out that it is a bad question
> which seeks an authoritarian answer. Actually, rulers are only
> a means to an end. What we need are good policies, whether
> that comes from one ruler, or many rulers in succession, or no
> rulers.
> What we should focus on instead of who gets to rule is
> creating a system in which errors are corrected. That means
> that bad policies can be changed and bad rulers removed from
> power. And both of those should be possible without violence.
> All people can do is say they have low press freedom index but what can you do?I think you're misunderstanding. Freedom of the press is just one example. Civil liberties in Singapore are seriously curtailed, and it's not just freedom of speech. Ask HRW and Amnesty what they think of Singapore; ask LGBT people in Singapore in particular what they think about the "competent" PAP's attitude towards them. Well, except that you can't really, because they may get punished for speaking their minds.
> Gays do not eat feces and do not drink piss and anal blood but Church handed out leaflets with 'research' that says they do (and that's why being gay will make you sick) to young children and there were no consequences.
And yet, being gay in Poland is legal, while in Singapore same-sex activity can be a criminal offense.
> Calls online and otherwise for killing Donald Tusk for being a traitor, congratulating ISIS for killing gays on facebook (that's illegal in Poland already and people were doing it under their own real names), saying elections were rigged if you lost and providing no proof, claiming there are huge conspiracies financed by the JEW Soros, etc. Why exactly is this allowed? What value does that 'speech' bring? Why is the Polish law not enforced?
Because the party in power doesn't care. It may surprise you, but there's no First Amendment in Poland. There are significantly more restrictions on freedom of speech than you think, but, oddly, they do not have the effect you wish for.
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I don't understand this perspective. When CNN gets a story wrong, the right creates a huge storm and people get fired. When the right gets a story wrong (Breitbart still pushing the hard anti-climate change line, Hannity with the Seth Rich conspiracy, the entire birther movement, Pizzagate, and on and on and on )... nothing happens. Nothing. It took Milo saying "maybe pedophelia isn't that bad" before there was enoug…
I recommend this article to you about the failure and death of journalism. https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.com/2016/08/21/american-jo...
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I stopped watching CNN during election night when the table was full of people who at least once said "we" when they intended to say "the Democrats".
I stopped watching CNN as well because the bias was all too blatant and here I was all these years thinking that it was unbiased or at least tried to be balanced. Marc Andreessen (whom I consider one of the smartest people I like to learn from) touches on this media issue here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZhBVBBBNs0 Even Marc is deeply conflicted when it comes to this particular issue. I think Marc is a partially…
Closeted?
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> reddit is a lost cause I'd agree only with the default front page/subreddits. There are still a plethora of smaller community subs in Reddit that are thriving and useful. Unfortunately it takes a lot of informed curating to know which subs to ditch.
The "smaller community subs are great" meme doesn't work here. All subs about politics are rubbish.