Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

MS Paint is here to stay

blogs.windows.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

131–140 of 320 posts

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

#131

Post by Cthulhu_ »

OkGoDoIt wrote: post #72
opdahl wrote: post #11

What is, and has been great about MS Paint is that no matter what Windows machine I have been on, I know that I have had it available. No matter if it's my old grandma's computer, if I have needed to quickly do something simple with an image, MS Paint has always been there for me. Now that will no longer be the case. If I have to download and install it on the computer before I use it, then what is the point? It will…

Additionally you can't download apps off the windows store unless you sign up for /into a Microsoft account, which is a much bigger pain than simply downloading the first app you find searching on Google. Also my corporate windows 10 laptop has the entire window store and modern app infrastructure disabled, meaning I would not be able to access MS Paint.

This is also true for the App Stores (Mac, iOS, Android), all of which require you to make an account before even using it - Mac might still be an exception, but only barely.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

#132

Post by badprose »

qarioz wrote: post #122
simplyinfinity wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

just because it's in the store doesn't mean it wont be pre installed :)

Doesn't indicate that it will be preinstalled either. If I know my Corporation Language 101, it will not be preinstalled.

Not by Microsoft.

"Dell is proud to announce their new line of laptops, with classic Paint built-in!

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

#133

Post by dvfjsdhgfv »

OkGoDoIt wrote: post #72
opdahl wrote: post #11

What is, and has been great about MS Paint is that no matter what Windows machine I have been on, I know that I have had it available. No matter if it's my old grandma's computer, if I have needed to quickly do something simple with an image, MS Paint has always been there for me. Now that will no longer be the case. If I have to download and install it on the computer before I use it, then what is the point? It will…

Additionally you can't download apps off the windows store unless you sign up for /into a Microsoft account, which is a much bigger pain than simply downloading the first app you find searching on Google. Also my corporate windows 10 laptop has the entire window store and modern app infrastructure disabled, meaning I would not be able to access MS Paint.

In this case it's not really a question of technical possibilities, but corporate policy: if it says you can't install any software without permission, then better don't try as it can be used against you. If there is no such clause in your contract, there is no much difference between downloading and using Portable Apps Platform software (which is mostly open source, but beware of catches such as IrfanView which is free as in beer only for non-commercial use) and bringing your own copy of Paint (on a pendrive, for example).

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

#134

Post by wolfgke »

skrebbel wrote: post #76
OkGoDoIt wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Additionally you can't download apps off the windows store unless you sign up for /into a Microsoft account, which is a much bigger pain than simply downloading the first app you find searching on Google. Also my corporate windows 10 laptop has the entire window store and modern app infrastructure disabled, meaning I would not be able to access MS Paint.

> Also my corporate windows 10 laptop has the entire window store and modern app infrastructure disabled Wow that's... What? For all its warts, the Windows Store is a secure app delivery platform. Doesn't disabling it merely encourage downloading zipped executables from sleazy unencrypted websites?

> For all its warts, the Windows Store is a secure app delivery platform. Doesn't disabling it merely encourage downloading zipped executables from sleazy unencrypted websites?

In a corporate environment in many cases it is undesired that users install applications. So of course one disables Windows Store. Additionally one prohibits downloading zips etc. I have read of a way how in Windows one can set that files created/downloaded by users cannot be executed, which is also a desired configuration in many corporate environments.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

#136

Post by garaetjjte »

merijnv wrote: post #114
wvenable wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not necessarily the size of the executable but rather that it's another executable the part of the build and test process of the base image. Pinball had to be removed for this sort of reason.

> Pinball had to be removed for this sort of reason. What? No. It was removed because it was a 32bit application written by a 3rd party and there was a hard to fix bug on 64bit windows that made it unplayable, so they dropped it. Source: Raymond Chen - https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20121218-00/?p=...

That doesn't make sense, it could be run on WoW64. (even Visual Studio is 32-bit)

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

#137

Post by comeonnowreally »

skrebbel wrote: post #128
comeonnowreally wrote: post #126

Disappointing comments in this thread. Lots of worthless complaining, and scant technical talk on solutions to this barely significant 'problem'. If you want to keep the original mspaint.exe and don't want to use the Store for some reason, you can literally just copy it from any Windows 10 install media prior to RS3. Or from a running system. It's not difficult.

It has a lot of dependencies actually. No idea which of those also get removed.

I think they're all dependencies shared by many other Windows components, and will probably mostly be the versioned API Sets rather than specifically named DLLs. But if there is anything Paint-specific it could just be copied over too.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

#138

Post by slackingoff2017 »

skrebbel wrote: post #76
OkGoDoIt wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Additionally you can't download apps off the windows store unless you sign up for /into a Microsoft account, which is a much bigger pain than simply downloading the first app you find searching on Google. Also my corporate windows 10 laptop has the entire window store and modern app infrastructure disabled, meaning I would not be able to access MS Paint.

> Also my corporate windows 10 laptop has the entire window store and modern app infrastructure disabled Wow that's... What? For all its warts, the Windows Store is a secure app delivery platform. Doesn't disabling it merely encourage downloading zipped executables from sleazy unencrypted websites?

You shouldn't be running binaries you don't trust no matter where they come from :) . And honestly I would probably use the MS store if it didn't suck balls.

Seriously whoever designed their "modern" UI needs to get booted. It's terrible and the main reason nobody uses the windows app store.

Ubuntu, MacOS, and even Steam on Windows all have a good app store interface. MS designed the OS and their version is a UI nightmare.

I'm hoping in some way there's some MS employees watching this thread. Please fix the damn app store by just extending the functionality of "add/remove programs" which everyone knows how to use and works fine.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

#139

Post by skrebbel »

morrbo wrote: post #130
skrebbel wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Also my corporate windows 10 laptop has the entire window store and modern app infrastructure disabled Wow that's... What? For all its warts, the Windows Store is a secure app delivery platform. Doesn't disabling it merely encourage downloading zipped executables from sleazy unencrypted websites?

I don't understand the shock here? Large corporations don't want users installing random apps. I don't see why an NHS laptop, for example, should have Bejewelled installed, or some dodgy app which gives permissions to the user's drives, and uploads files. Similarly, though admittedly not a problem in the same way with Windows store apps, to Chrome extensions. Those working in secretive environments with naive users s…

I understand, but what happens is that people will unzip programs from their Downloads folder and just run them from there.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

#140

Post by BrockSamson »

proactivesvcs wrote: post #87
chrisper wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hopefully they continue by removing: Candy Crush, "Get Office", Minecraft, ... and all other trash that gets installed by default.

...the integrated advertising platform, cloud software, the mandatory spying components...

This is my problem with Windows 10. It is no longer an operating system it is an advertising platform.
Post reply on HN