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MS Paint is here to stay

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Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by philtar »

SwellJoe wrote: post #89
keithnz wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

lots of people raging..... about resizing and cropping.... So I figure I'd have a go I haven't used Paint 3d before until a few moments ago, and very quickly worked out how to resize and crop an image. Seemed simple enough. The image resizing is actually better than most I've seen.

It's not so much that I couldn't have figured it out (though I seem to recall it was not immediately obvious how to do anything, to me), rather it changed my selected applications. I'd set it up the way I liked it, with software I was familiar with and happy with...and an OS update removed that configuration and pointed to Paint 3D instead, an application I hadn't asked for, and seemingly could not uninstall (at leas…

Your complaints are stupid.

You complained that cropping and resizing were difficult. When confronted by the fact that they weren't, you went to "oh it changed the defaults." Then you complain about being unable to Uninstaller it when it's uninstall process is like literally every other application.

You just want to complain. Your issues are not valid and you are just spreading FUD

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by qarioz »

simplyinfinity wrote: post #49
nsxwolf wrote: post #10

Not having it installed by default will kill off MS Paint.

just because it's in the store doesn't mean it wont be pre installed :)

Doesn't indicate that it will be preinstalled either. If I know my Corporation Language 101, it will not be preinstalled.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by Zardoz84 »

richev wrote: post #107
keithnz wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

just use paint 3d, I just tried it out, seems a simple enough replacement for most simple editing tasks

It's slower to start than Paint (on this laptop at least), and I can't see any way to import an image using a scanner using it (one of my main use cases for Paint). And why on earth does the menu icon in Paint 3D look like a folder icon?

Use Paint.net (fast load) or The Gimp (works very fine with scaners, but don't forget to enable single window mode)

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by mbel »

wvenable wrote: post #27
opdahl wrote: post #11

What is, and has been great about MS Paint is that no matter what Windows machine I have been on, I know that I have had it available. No matter if it's my old grandma's computer, if I have needed to quickly do something simple with an image, MS Paint has always been there for me. Now that will no longer be the case. If I have to download and install it on the computer before I use it, then what is the point? It will…

I think it's a good thing that Microsoft is reducing the size of their base OS and decoupling many of the apps from the Windows release cycle. It definitely does, however, feel like the end of a era.

6.36 MB, that's how much space takes MS Paint. In era when web pages sizes are no longer counted in kilo- but megabytes is this really a meaningful size reduction? Because it's definitely a meaningful feature loss.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by vog »

opdahl wrote: post #11

What is, and has been great about MS Paint is that no matter what Windows machine I have been on, I know that I have had it available. No matter if it's my old grandma's computer, if I have needed to quickly do something simple with an image, MS Paint has always been there for me. Now that will no longer be the case. If I have to download and install it on the computer before I use it, then what is the point? It will…

> no matter what Windows machine I have been on, I know that I have had it available

So MS Paint is to Windows what Vi is to Unix?

That is, no matter which editor you prefer, you'll always end up learning Vi, at least its basics. Because when in doubt, it may be the only viable editor that exists on your target system for sure.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by comeonnowreally »

Disappointing comments in this thread. Lots of worthless complaining, and scant technical talk on solutions to this barely significant 'problem'.

If you want to keep the original mspaint.exe and don't want to use the Store for some reason, you can literally just copy it from any Windows 10 install media prior to RS3. Or from a running system. It's not difficult.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by a_imho »

starquake wrote: post #104
tonyedgecombe wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Windows Store is a secure app delivery platform" Ha ha ...

Some motivation for your reaction would be great!

Well, people said Updates were a trusted channel until Microsoft started rounding up Win 7/8 installations. I can certainly see the once bitten twice shy sentiment from many.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by skrebbel »

comeonnowreally wrote: post #126

Disappointing comments in this thread. Lots of worthless complaining, and scant technical talk on solutions to this barely significant 'problem'. If you want to keep the original mspaint.exe and don't want to use the Store for some reason, you can literally just copy it from any Windows 10 install media prior to RS3. Or from a running system. It's not difficult.

It has a lot of dependencies actually. No idea which of those also get removed.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by morrbo »

skrebbel wrote: post #76
OkGoDoIt wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Additionally you can't download apps off the windows store unless you sign up for /into a Microsoft account, which is a much bigger pain than simply downloading the first app you find searching on Google. Also my corporate windows 10 laptop has the entire window store and modern app infrastructure disabled, meaning I would not be able to access MS Paint.

> Also my corporate windows 10 laptop has the entire window store and modern app infrastructure disabled Wow that's... What? For all its warts, the Windows Store is a secure app delivery platform. Doesn't disabling it merely encourage downloading zipped executables from sleazy unencrypted websites?

I don't understand the shock here? Large corporations don't want users installing random apps. I don't see why an NHS laptop, for example, should have Bejewelled installed, or some dodgy app which gives permissions to the user's drives, and uploads files.

Similarly, though admittedly not a problem in the same way with Windows store apps, to Chrome extensions. Those working in secretive environments with naive users shouldn't have something like "Youtube auto-hd" installed, which will feedback every single website they visit to some shady third party analytics company. IMO this is why having even the concept of these apps inside a "secure" (re. enterprise) version of Windows is a massive oversight. I will admit that this is not a problem in the LTSB branch of Windows 10 Enterprise; I had the disabled apps magically re-enable themselves 3 times after "updates" on non-LTSB before switching back over.

Sorry to rant, but in summation, don't be shocked when corporate users want their laptops to be as restricted and purely for work as possible.

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